Fox 38 Knocking sound

Simonp3

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Aug 21, 2020
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Hello

Is this sound normal?

Brand new Fox 38 160 Grip 2.

Driven 20 km's

2023 Mondraker Crafty RR

 

Simonp3

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Aug 21, 2020
32
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Denmark
Not headstock bearings loose ?
Nope. Tried tightening the headset like, a lot. Also slightly over tightened the wheel axle. Nothing helped. When I hold my hand on the black outer legs, I can feel the knocking on the inside of the fork.
 

steve_sordy

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Nov 5, 2018
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Talk to Fox, or whoever you bought the forks from. It is always unwise to ride a bike with a new or odd noise until you have found out what it is. It may be nothing, but it could be something. :unsure: :eek:
 

Christurbo

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Jul 11, 2023
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If this was me (and its not) I would:-

Remove fork from frame.
-Service headset (or even replace)
-Lower leg service on the shock, torque lower bolts to factory spec
-Refit headset and grease
-refit fork

Ride.... I bet this will fix your issue as it will cover a number of variables.

There is a known issue where the stanchion meet the crown where some forks start to creak (not knock), preventive maintenance for this is to work some Loctite into the seal with fork upside down and wait until it sets. This is what Fox do (but they obviously remove the stanchions to add the Loctite).
 

Spin

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Dec 24, 2021
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If this was me (and its not) I would:-

Remove fork from frame.
-Service headset (or even replace)
-Lower leg service on the shock, torque lower bolts to factory spec
-Refit headset and grease
-refit fork

Ride.... I bet this will fix your issue as it will cover a number of variables.

There is a known issue where the stanchion meet the crown where some forks start to creak (not knock), preventive maintenance for this is to work some Loctite into the seal with fork upside down and wait until it sets. This is what Fox do (but they obviously remove the stanchions to add the Loctite).
If this was me , the bike ridden 20kms ? Straight back to the shop!
If it is something internal in the fork , that's clearly poor QA and should not be the buyers problem.
 

InRustWeTrust

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Mar 9, 2020
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If this was me , the bike ridden 20kms ? Straight back to the shop!
If it is something internal in the fork , that's clearly poor QA and should not be the buyers problem.

I agree here , if the fork is new it should go back to the shop asap. If you open up the fork maybe the shop denies to give you a new one so dont open it.
 

wenna

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Aug 1, 2023
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If not the headset or wheel, it sounds like play in the fork bushings to me.

Do you get the same play with the wheel straight and using front brake to rock it forwards and backwards?
 

Simonp3

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Aug 21, 2020
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If not the headset or wheel, it sounds like play in the fork bushings to me.

Do you get the same play with the wheel straight and using front brake to rock it forwards and backwards?
I only get play, when I turn the fork 90 degrees. I disassembled the headset and greased it up, I also tried without the brake caliper. It is definitely the fork..
 

Simonp3

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Aug 21, 2020
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It's not your problem, it's the shop's problem. Do not open the fork, just do as said above, take the fork back to the shop.
Only problem is that I bought it online, so it's quite a hassle, but I have contacted Fox, and the online shop.
 

irie

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Only problem is that I bought it online, so it's quite a hassle, but I have contacted Fox, and the online shop.
If you bought it online you will have EU distance selling laws to protect your purchase, also credit card protection. The forks are defective so get a refund and start again. The longer you leave it the potentially messier everything gets.
 

Simonp3

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Aug 21, 2020
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If you bought it online you will have EU distance selling laws to protect your purchase, also credit card protection. The forks are defective so get a refund and start again. The longer you leave it the potentially messier everything gets.
Yeah, i know. Altough, the fork was on the bike i bought online, so i have contacted both fox, and the dealership.
 

Christurbo

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Jul 11, 2023
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If this was me , the bike ridden 20kms ? Straight back to the shop!
If it is something internal in the fork , that's clearly poor QA and should not be the buyers problem.
Agreed to a certain extent but that could be days/weeks off the trail and the advice I gave would take 30 mins.

I always drop the lowers and slightly more as Fox use too much grease which impacts on harshness.
 

Christurbo

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Jul 11, 2023
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I only get play, when I turn the fork 90 degrees. I disassembled the headset and greased it up, I also tried without the brake caliper. It is definitely the fork..
That sounds to me like it could also be the hub brought into the equation that needs to be ruled out.

Put it in a stand. Remove the wheel and get someone to hold the frame whilst you check for play at 90 degrees and check it’s still there with no wheel.
 

Spin

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Dec 24, 2021
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Agreed to a certain extent but that could be days/weeks off the trail and the advice I gave would take 30 mins.

I always drop the lowers and slightly more as Fox use too much grease which impacts on harshness.
Yeah but one thing worse than buying a new bike and not getting to ride it until a warranty issue is corrected is voiding warranty by touching the problem yourself.
 

Simonp3

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Aug 21, 2020
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So i got a hold of my mates Mondraker Dusk R, also brand new. He's got a Fox 36 Fit4 installed. It does the same thing!
 

Heated

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May 18, 2024
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Reviving this, Did you ever solve it? I've had knocking 36's in the past and fox just say 'nothing wrong' which is bullsh1t!!
The reason i found this is my new 38 on my Reign E+ is knocking and on the reign it radiates through the frame which makes it very loud(yes its the fork as put in anther bike)
 

Simonp3

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Aug 21, 2020
32
9
Denmark
Reviving this, Did you ever solve it? I've had knocking 36's in the past and fox just say 'nothing wrong' which is bullsh1t!!
The reason i found this is my new 38 on my Reign E+ is knocking and on the reign it radiates through the frame which makes it very loud(yes its the fork as put in anther bike)
Hello

Yes, it is solved.
It was solved ln mine, and my mates Mondraker with fox 36.

The fork bushings needs to be replaced, and after that, all is good.
 

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