This is not just travel question but long travel + high pivot which is not kind of the same for me.
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Maybe I should have said long*er* travel. There will be two options available to purchase when they are released.
calnearlyebike
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this isn’t an attack on anyone’s point of view . But I recently brought a 180 travel enduro bike in the mind set that more is better. I consider myself above average at riding , by no means a fast lad compared to racers. I’m really surprised how difficult it is to ride compared to a 150. It requires massive movements and commitment to make it sing. I don’t really ride it that much. Yes it’s very cool and I still enjoy it. But tracks in the woods 150 or less is way easier
jbrown15
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I’ve had a 190/190mm Voima, and I’ve ridden ebikes like the current Rise LT. A lot of it has to do with suspension design, but given a choice I still prefer the longer travel ebikes for the terrain we ride in the Pacific North West.
But I am looking forward to trying a eDruid.
Yes, the geometry and how the rear suspension is positioned play a lot, you do not ride a 150 rear shock like a 180 one.
Some people also failed to position themselves correctly on longer travel bike, for me on my 170/170 I am not really riding the same as my 160/150. From corner, weight front or rear wheel, some feature are just requiring different body position.
Remember also that the longer travel fork have less flex, some people are able to feel it, some just do not.
On an e-bike, I do prefer at least 170+/170 especially in woods, what is true so is that if you do not setup correctly your suspension, as it has more travel it can be not that great.
Suspension tuning is not just SAG: bottom resistance, rebound, low/fast compression etc. My bet is that people failed to run 20 times the same track with different settings to find the right one. This is not a set and forget.
NB: I am not riding at full speed either to avoid being out of the game for weeks/months, and I am lazy too most of the time on suspension settings unless I am a full week on bike park.
Some people also failed to position themselves correctly on longer travel bike, for me on my 170/170 I am not really riding the same as my 160/150. From corner, weight front or rear wheel, some feature are just requiring different body position.
Remember also that the longer travel fork have less flex, some people are able to feel it, some just do not.
On an e-bike, I do prefer at least 170+/170 especially in woods, what is true so is that if you do not setup correctly your suspension, as it has more travel it can be not that great.
Suspension tuning is not just SAG: bottom resistance, rebound, low/fast compression etc. My bet is that people failed to run 20 times the same track with different settings to find the right one. This is not a set and forget.
NB: I am not riding at full speed either to avoid being out of the game for weeks/months, and I am lazy too most of the time on suspension settings unless I am a full week on bike park.
calnearlyebike
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All valid points . The rear shock setting thing is massive. Longer travel bikes in my opinion are Harder to set. The more bikes I ride I realise how different bikes are. Obviously experienced riders know what they want so happy days . But for the average customer . If I owned a company . It would be a nice 150 that felt great coasting without much rider input . Again , making presumptions about averages and the type of ppl who drop 10k on e-bikes and will over the current years. They aren’t preloading and smashing rock gardens ( in the uk at least). They don’t require big massive travel trophy trucks .
calnearlyebike
Member
And not so much the suspension design. Just the the physical size of the long travel bikes. We love them coz they are massive but they are hard work
slickrock
Active member
Hmm. I'll be definitely be moseying on down there on April 11th and hopefully put a leg over at least one of these.
love forbidden bikes but dread(naught) to think how much this will cost, as their normal mtbs cost a fortune.
If bike brand wants to survive they have to put correct price. We are at the bottom of the wave and for a long time, so it would be dumb to put a very high price.
Some brand now are selling ebike at nearly the same price as analog one ... so that can tell you how much margin they really do.
Some brand now are selling ebike at nearly the same price as analog one ... so that can tell you how much margin they really do.
shadowfacts
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Unfortunately, this will also raise the price of pretty much every ebike, foreign or domestic. Santa Cruz and Specialized are going to be paying tariffs on their frames, motors, batteries, group sets... everything really.
US bike companies can't eat a 25% margin cut. That cost is going to be passed on to us. Ebike prices are about to go through the roof.
sethimus
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FAFO
DirkWisely
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I'm pretty interested in this bike, but it's a little concerning that the company doesn't seem very communicative. I sent them a message on their contact form asking if they'd be at Sea Otter, and I haven't gotten a response.
It doesn't inspire confidence when the company that makes your bike is hard to reach. Hopefully actual owners have some phone number or email provided to them for warranty/support.
It doesn't inspire confidence when the company that makes your bike is hard to reach. Hopefully actual owners have some phone number or email provided to them for warranty/support.
Any brand would do the same. Do you really expect them to tell you?
Would kind of wreck the surprise...
DirkWisely
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Is it really a surprise if a company will be at a big convention/trade show type event? Usually it's public info.
I was told by my forbidden Dealer all the normal Bikes would be in tonne paint fade so this seems to be correct.
russellcrowe
New Member
I've had a Dreadnought for 2 years and Forbidden were always great to deal with and quick to answer questions. I even contacted with questions about the new ebike and they were pretty quick to answer. Maybe they've just been getting too many emails about the ebike/sea otter...
DirkWisely
Member
Can confirm they have an 800wh version, as I just put in a preorder at my LBS.
awesome! do we know if the battery can easily be removed/swapped? or if there's an extender?
btw did they give you a price? high chance I end up buying one of these.
DirkWisely
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Rumor has it roughly $9/10/11k
DirkWisely
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Yeah that was USD. Dunno about anywhere else.
