how does one protect ankles from snapping but maintain mobility hmmmm
I have taken a couple of pics of my Vaults, but the pins look bigger diameter than those on the Chester Race Face. I suspect that they are the same pins as on the DMR V12 you show, as why would DMR use different ones?very tempted but could you kindly check my video below and let me know if the pins are as stubby as the vault 12 ones? Cheers
I have taken a couple of pics of my Vaults, but the pins look bigger diameter than those on the Chester Race Face. I suspect that they are the same pins as on the DMR V12 you show, as why would DMR use different ones?
I like the pins on the DMR Vault. They are stronger than the thin ones on the Chester and less likely to bend when the underside of the pedal hits anything. I agree that thin ones will dig into the shoe sole better, but just how much grip do you really need? My FiveTens had so much grip on the Vaults (even with one pin removed) that once I had planted my foot on the pedal I could not move it. Sounds good? But if I failed to get my foot in exactly the right place I couldn't shuffle it into the right place, not even a little bit! I had to lift my foot off and have another go; not easy when the bike and I are bouncing down a rough trail. It wasn't until I replaced the FiveTens with some Shimano shoes that I found the right mix of grip and the ability to shuffle a bit. In addition to being more easily damaged, thin pins slice into flesh so much better too!
In the pic below, you can clearly see that the Vault comes with different length pins. Extra pins come in the box, and you can also buy extra pins and have the ones on your pedals all long, all short, or any mix in between to suit your needs. You can see that none have bent. The pedals used to be glossy black, but over time (years) the tough black finish has been polished off by my shoes. By the way, the pins get rounded with use and you can restore them with a file or (much better) a small grindstone. Just flatten the tops, no need to sharpen to a point!
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In the pic below, you can see how short pins in the middle are used to provide a concave grip. The centre rib on the pedal is also gently concave, the middle being 1mm lower than the outer edges of the pedal body.
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I love my Vaults!
Very.wonder how dmr vault is different to dmr v2....
’’’Building on the established design of it top-selling V8 and V12 models, DMR’s V2 Vault flat MTB pedals are ideal for everything from smashing down descents and climbing steep trail sections. With their tough CrMo (Chromoly) axles and extruded 6061 aluminium platforms, they are both durable and low in weight. ’’’Very.
V12s are a pretty poor shape and feel
Vaults are decent.
Bearings axles and construction are fine on both.
It's really not that difficult Carl.
Now ride your bike.
‘Building on the established design of it top-selling V8 and V12 models’You're clueless bud.
Please stop ?
Mate. It's you who has the reading comprehension issue here.please read....makes life easier
Mate. It's you who has the reading comprehension issue here.
I'm not being rude but are you fairly high on the autistic spectrum by any chance?
Genuinely concerned.
No mate. I kindly explained the reason behind the names DMRs gave each pedal, But you still seem too obsessed with your own vision of how they should have named them to even take in and comprehend the meaning of the phrase "Building on an established design" in a blurb you've copied n pasted from somewhere.o you even realise when I asked a simple question about the differences between Vault and V2 you rambled on about the V12? J
I've been out on the bike at least twice every day this week bro.Get out on the bike Gary! (please!)
I'm not attacking you mate. Please don't take it as such. I genuinely think you have issues. Hence enquiring about ASDDon't worry about the multiple attacks there (its only the internet right) its not all toxic
No mate. I kindly explained the reason behind the names DMRs gave each pedal, But you still seem too obsessed with your own vision of how they should have named them to even take in and comprehend the meaning of the phrase "Building on an established design" in a blurb you've copied n pasted from somewhere.
it really isn't difficult to understand at all.
go back and read post #38
The "V" in the Vault V2 stands for "version"
The "V" in V8 and V12 does not stand for "version"
Oh... and the description of the Vaults you are obsessing over was written by a CRC employee. not DMR
I've been out on the bike at least twice every day this week bro.
Watching the world cup DH from Lousa just now but will be out again in an hour or so.
All of my bikes have pedals fitted funnily enough. Bit of a waste of time and money having bikes otherwise.
I'm not attacking you mate. Please don't take it as such. I genuinely think you have issues. Hence enquiring about ASD
Shimano AM42, but as far as I know all the Shimano shoe soles are made from the same material......now you say your on Shimano so the million dollar question is which one? It might be with body weight the DMR pins sink into the recess and maybe end up being more grippy, you’re comment about being able to move is something I’m also looking at, I’m not after the clip less thing but good grip is good enough ................
I didn't "write over" anything
I didn't mention special needs at all.
I asked you if you were ASD. Which you still haven't answered.
there is no argument. Just one bloke talking utter crap about a bunch of pedals* he's never tried.
Does the bike shop know you'll be returning the Brendogs if your shoes don't hang sufficiently from them over your dining room table?
*Pedals can probably be substituted for pretty much any mtb accessory/component/article of clothing
Shimano AM42, but as far as I know all the Shimano shoe soles are made from the same material.
Whatever shoe/pedal combo you buy the grip will start to change as you use them The pins will lose their edge, and the soles will start to rough up, develop pits where the pins have been going, and the sole pattern will wear out. If you were writing an article for a magazine, fair enough I suppose, but you appear to be putting too much effort into making a simple decision.
By the way, multiple on-line purchases and then returning them all is not cool.
^^ Steve is correct - too much thinking on your part. Buy a pair of pedals and shoes you like the look of and then just ride your bike.
I use spd shoes with hard plastic cleat covers and the grip from my Stamp 2s is great....ie you have to lift your feet to reposition them. So don't worry about getting max grip, as sometimes you don't want it.
I'm a bit of a gear geek like you and love the research before buying stuff for my various hobbies, but you and some others on here, imo, take it too far, seemingly posting every thought.
I'm not saying don't do it, as it can be entertaining all the same.
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Guys thx for all the help, I see many of you prefer dmr vault but I think vault are too fat, I believe I need thin pedals coz I constantly hit everything on the floor
Mate. It's you who has the reading comprehension issue here.
I'm not being rude but are you fairly high on the autistic spectrum by any chance?
Genuinely concerned.
Shimano AM42, but as far as I know all the Shimano shoe soles are made from the same material.
Whatever shoe/pedal combo you buy the grip will start to change as you use them The pins will lose their edge, and the soles will start to rough up, develop pits where the pins have been going, and the sole pattern will wear out. If you were writing an article for a magazine, fair enough I suppose, but you appear to be putting too much effort into making a simple decision.
By the way, multiple on-line purchases and then returning them all is not cool.
Wow. I didn't read most of that.... ?
I chose Crank Bros. Stamp 2 pedals as they were the thinnest pedals I could find at my price point. They grip like hell and after almost 2 Scottish winters with zero love, they're still going strong, spinning freely.
You and others might choose something different, but that's what works for me. I've never felt unsafe or out of control. It's all I've had for the last 2 years and I've used them with no limits.
GR9 also has the same profile as the GR7....these will outlast five tens according to a few reportsGR5 has different sole to GR7 .
GR7 has Michelin rubber and Michelin icon on the sole . GR5 no icon .
GR7 has a rough textured sole . GR5 has waffle pattern .
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