ETMB disappointment

Andyd1966

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Oct 30, 2024
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Just purchased a Whyte E160S with a Bosch motor, and wanted to understand how this works as it would seem that I’m constantly working against the motor rather than assisting me. Everything looks like it’s setup, but I’m riding the bike more without the motor on, which defeats the object. Any ideas or is this how it is with the 25kmh restriction?
 

Mteam

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The motor has to (by law) provide no power at speeds above 25km/h (other countries have different limits), so if you're travelling over this speed then what you're describing is normal, and it will feel like you're pedalling with the motor switched off .

Under this speed , the motor should be providing a variable level of power depending on what mode you are in, and how hard you are pedalling - unless you have it switched off, in which case the motor will do nothing (obviously)
 
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Paulquattro

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Welcome
If you had assist you would know flat or not
All the above points taken into consideration
Remember its a pedal assist bike not a motorbike which a lot of people seem to get mixed up with (y)
 

TommyC

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What I’ve realised is that if I expect to exceed the limit, I’ll ride in eco. That way I’m in a low enough gear when I hit the limit to power past it.

Well, that was before I derestricted it!
 

Andyd1966

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Thanks for all the replies. So from what I gather it’s best to ride without the motor if your on the road or at best eco mode, and use the motor when you get to ride out in the woods etc. My rides will have a mixture of both, just the nature of where I live
 

Paulquattro

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Thanks for all the replies. So from what I gather it’s best to ride without the motor if your on the road or at best eco mode, and use the motor when you get to ride out in the woods etc. My rides will have a mixture of both, just the nature of where I live
If your bike is working as intended and isnt faulty i dont see you have anything to worry about
I reckon your over thinking it , put it in what ever assist level you feel comfortable with when you hit the assist cut off keep pedalling or cruise in and around the 15.5mph where ever you are
If your offroad on trails etc i doubt you will even notice it much especially when pointing down and going for it
Enjoy (y)
 

Stihldog

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No wonder the derestricting market is thriving in the EU. In North America the limits are set at 32km or 20mph. Those limits seem reasonable to me.

I rarely travel on the roads so EMTB-mode is usually all I need. I don’t have a derestricting device but my LBS always ask before they do a computer update. Only seen one on our mountain …and that was DOA. 🤷‍♂️
 

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