"Eco mode" clarification

[JayK]

First time I hit the trail on my new Levo, a guy started a conversation asking me basically "What's the range on eco mode ?".

I told him that since you can adjust all 3 levels as you want, "eco mode" doesn't mean a lot. You can set eco mode to 10% or 40% and obviously, the range would be very different. He wouldn't understand what appears to be very simple to me and insisted with his eco mode range... so much that I'd like to make sure I got it right.

Is there a difference between riding "eco mode" set at 30% and "trail mode" set at 30% ?
Does asking someone for his range on "eco mode" make any sense at all ?

Thanks !

 

[Donnie797]

Nope, makes no sense on a Specialized. If the modes are set identically, they give the same assist. The "range" on whatever-mode depends on so many factors, you can't really give a serious value. Rider-weight, Tyres, Tyre-Pressure, Rider-Power-Output, terrain, wind... you could set Eco to the lowest value and just ride on the flats, not putting in much power through the pedals and get 200km (or more?) out of it.

 

[Dax]

He probably had a bosch, which you can't adjust

 

[jwrx]

On a spez...they really should have marketed it as 3 user defined settings, setting 1, 2 and 3. Like how BMW advertised M1, M2 driving modes for their ///M models

 

[JayK]

Thanks.
Happy I was not the dumb guy here, he really had me doubting.

 

[Mcharza]

On a spez...they really should have marketed it as 3 user defined settings, setting 1, 2 and 3. Like how BMW advertised M1, M2 driving modes for their ///M models

I have an opposite opinion. Eco, trail and turbo is just fine.
Easy to understand even you're not a bimmer guy

 

[Stray cat]

What I understand,you can adjust power in each mode. And obviously,turbo is the more powerful,then trail and last Eco as the less powerful
But strangely,you can set for example Eco and turbo with the same % of power and they work equal


For example,Bosch motor,doesn't allow doing that. You have maximum power delivered in each mode and they are progressive,from less to max power

 

[Dax]

Can you adjust it so eco is more powerful than turbo? No idea why you would want to mind

 

[outerlimits]

Can you adjust it so eco is more powerful than turbo? No idea why you would want to mind

Yes you can
Strange but true

 

[Jonnyash]

Eco trail and turbo are purely just names of mode so you know what your in and power you’ve set to it !

 

[Stray cat]

What I understand,you can adjust power in each mode. And obviously,turbo is the more powerful,then trail and last Eco as the less powerful
But strangely,you can set for example Eco and turbo with the same % of power and they work equal


For example,Bosch motor,doesn't allow doing that. You have maximum power delivered in each mode and they are progressive,from less to max power

Edit and correct my comment. I talked to a Levo owner and he clarified me the matter.

 

[kcarbon]

well to me, you want a longer range, or you want a harder work out. then run in eco but set it as low as you can within reason. yesterday, I set my eco at primary 15% secondary at 20% the trail is at 50% for both the Turbo is primary 85% with max at 100%. I used the gears for hill's & kept in eco all the way covered 20km distance up and down hill's on a paved cycle way. I got home & checked how much battery % I has it said I had 81%, that was yesterday. I just turned it on and now it tells me I have 79% battery power , so must have lost 2% over night? I just re set infinity tune to 10% primary eco & 15% secondary eco with trail still 50% & turbo 85% primary wit maximum 100% will do same ride see what is shows with battery on leaving at 79% .

 

[Marius]

I have also played around with the settings and realised that the difference between eco, trail and turbo is what you decide to set it at.
Best is to experiment with your own setup and keep record - that way, you get to estimate more accurately what distances you will be able to achieve.

 

[profgruen]

All 3 steps are completely free to configure.

Yes you can set turbo less powerful than eco.

The idea behind the naming is that rider usually set up/define in infinity mide three different power levels - so the naming makes sense as you know when riding which level you defined as the weakest, which as middle level and which as most powerful level.

This is the big advantage of spec/brose motor: you may define each level of motor completely individual - with most other engines like bosch cx they are predefined without possibility of adjustment.

sorry for bad english, not mother tongue in fact.

profgruen

 

[villac]

One benefit I see to freedom in Turbo Levo to define all three values, even with "Eco" on more assist than "Turbo":
The remote has a designated "S" or "turbo" button. If the rider wants to set "Turbo" to the lowest assist, they then have a one touch shortcut to get to that user defined setting. So the benefit is linking your favorite assist settings to the "Turbo" button. I think you could even link the "Turbo" button to no assist if you wanted.

 

[Konanige]

its a shame you cant rename them, then you could have 'feelin goood', 'shouldn't have had that extra pie' and ' get me home quick that pie was definately dodgy' settings.

 

[RebornRider]

[snip] So the benefit is linking your favorite assist settings to the "Turbo" button. I think you could even link the "Turbo" button to no assist if you wanted.

Or, you could crash really hard at Mammoth Mountain bike park and destroy the Turbo button. Then sloppily fill the gash with epoxy until you source a replacement (and feel like paying for it!).