Drivetrain cleaning

Mikerb

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Most parts of a chain incur metal to metal friction so it is the ability of any form of lube to act as a very thin slip barrier between parts that mitigates wear. To my mind it is only a good quality oil that can do that. A thicker treatment like wax can help prevent ingress of dust and grit from the trail but is easily rubbed away by friction and diluted by water as a result.

Which is why I use wet lube first, then dry lube .
 

RJUK

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Most parts of a chain incur metal to metal friction so it is the ability of any form of lube to act as a very thin slip barrier between parts that mitigates wear. To my mind it is only a good quality oil that can do that. A thicker treatment like wax can help prevent ingress of dust and grit from the trail but is easily rubbed away by friction and diluted by water as a result.

Which is why I use wet lube first, then dry lube .
I dunno - in independent testing the waxes tend to fair significantly better in the wear department, especially for off road use where dirt and grime can stick to oil and act as a grinding paste on the drivetrain. That's why I swapped. The wax has tungsten in it to mitigate against wear, and appears to work very well.

From my limited experience with it so far I have no reason not to believe these claims, though I haven't gone through a chain or anything yet to have any personal evidence of how much it helps. Other people's testing seems to suggest that it extends longevity of drivetrain components several times longer than an oil based lube, which is impressive and makes the slight faff of initial set up certainly worthwhile.
 

Mikerb

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I dunno - in independent testing the waxes tend to fair significantly better in the wear department, especially for off road use where dirt and grime can stick to oil and act as a grinding paste on the drivetrain. That's why I swapped. The wax has tungsten in it to mitigate against wear, and appears to work very well.

From my limited experience with it so far I have no reason not to believe these claims, though I haven't gone through a chain or anything yet to have any personal evidence of how much it helps. Other people's testing seems to suggest that it extends longevity of drivetrain components several times longer than an oil based lube, which is impressive and makes the slight faff of initial set up certainly worthwhile.
Yep not arguing against wax treatments assuming they have slip components in them and I fully accept that a wax is better than an oil in dusty type trail conditions. My method uses a oil first...wet lube....then a dry lube which has a wax component so I am doing something similar by using the 2 steps.......and I do that winter or summer. I believe some of the race teams do the same.
 

mkj1972

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Product arrived with in a day & had a nice message with it

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Emteebee

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Good... good... but let me throw this out there to you all.

Don’t wipe off the “excess” lubricant from the chain. While the lubricant is meant to penetrate between the rollers, pins, and plates, it also provides benefits on the chain’s exterior.

For instance, on unsealed plain bearings, such as those found in our chains, grease, or in our case, a wax mixture, prevents contaminants like dirt, dust, or moisture from entering the bearing.

Excess wet lubricant is the perfect carrier to transport the collected dust and dirt to the places you don’t want it. That is why always to remove excess lubricant. The dryer the chain the less dirt will stick.
 

EMTBSEAN

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Excess wet lubricant is the perfect carrier to transport the collected dust and dirt to the places you don’t want it. That is why always to remove excess lubricant. The dryer the chain the less dirt will stick.
That’s what I like about Smoove lube, it’s a wax based lube but it’s dry to the touch, even in the filthiest of rides my drivetrain is the cleanest part of my bike, don’t get me wrong it’s not spotless but there’s much less mud on there than the rest of my bike
 

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