Decisions Decisions Decisions Which Bike ???

[themonkster]

Hello there. Time for me to switch to the world of E Biking.

I'm torn between theses bikes.

Trek Rail 5 - Love the colour even though it's the lower spec.

Trek Rail 7 - 1K more than the 5 but bigger battery and better spec.

Whyte E150S - Awesome looking bike but the battery looks a ballache to remove.

Orbea Wild FS M20 - Great looking bike LBS will knock 500 off retail.

Cube Stereo Hybrid 160 - Great spec at a decent price.

Any input would be great. I've sat on the top spec rail in the LBS the other day. Great looking bike. Also tried the Whyte. Not seen a Cube or Orbea yet.

There's so many new bikes due the choice is overwhelming.

I'll be mainly riding natural trails, adventure riding. Couple of bike parks nothing too insane.

Thanks.

 

[ryturn]

LEVO didn't even get look in ?

 

[118]

The right choice is the one that fits you best, both physically and financially.

 

[TheBikePilot]

The Whyte has had good feedback..

 

[Zimmerframe]

Will you need to remove the battery on a regular basis ?

I think I'd be edging towards the white or the orbea on a combination of design/performance .. Looks !

If you can ride them, that will help your decision enormously. If you can't, don't fear that you've made the wrong decision afterwards, they're all good bikes.

 

[outerlimits]

Hello there. Time for me to switch to the world of E Biking.

I'm torn between theses bikes.

Trek Rail 5 - Love the colour even though it's the lower spec.

Trek Rail 7 - 1K more than the 5 but bigger battery and better spec.

Whyte E150S - Awesome looking bike but the battery looks a ballache to remove.

Orbea Wild FS M20 - Great looking bike LBS will knock 500 off retail.

Cube Stereo Hybrid 160 - Great spec at a decent price.

Any input would be great. I've sat on the top spec rail in the LBS the other day. Great looking bike. Also tried the Whyte. Not seen a Cube or Orbea yet.

There's so many new bikes due the choice is overwhelming.

I'll be mainly riding natural trails, adventure riding. Couple of bike parks nothing too insane.

Thanks.

Rail 7 over the 5, slightly better geo for bike parks.
Oreba, slightly better for natural trails
Cube, as above but better spec
They will all do what you want tho, and all good choices.

Oh the Whyte ... ?‍

Would you trust this to trail hazards encounter on natural trails and adventure riding ? Killer bike, but groomed trails only ?‍

 

[Zimmerframe]

Oh the Whyte ... ?‍

Would you trust this to trail hazards encounter on natural trails and adventure riding ? Killer bike, but groomed trails only ?‍

You don't like the organic expression of a bike with haemorrhoids ?

 

[outerlimits]

You don't like the organic expression of a bike with haemorrhoids ?

The low hanging fruit is always the first to go no matter what you are referencing.
Guess those cables would come in handy if you ever wanted to hang the bike upside down from a tree for trail side repairs tho.
Ass grapes be the least of your worries.

 

[Eddy Current]

@themonkster for natural rides without agressive ride i would pick the cube 29 over the 27.5 it has a more comfortable geometry but I think is too slacked for enjoy in not steep sections, same on the Orbea and the trek is crazy slacked for “adventure“ rides ... maybe a 66.5 is more enjoyable in all round rides without compromise the descent stuff

Do want to just go over the trails and wait to the downhill to smash or you want to have a tight handling in all situations?

 

[ggx]

Cube 2020 have carbon frame .
I have the Cube 2019 160 and I like the bike. I also tried the Cube 120 and it feels fast. Maybe the 140 is the sweetspot for trail riding. Thinking on tradind my 160 for the 2020 140.
Also tried the 2019 Trek and I like it.

 

[themonkster]

LEVO didn't even get look in ?

I did consider the Levo at one point. I'm leaning towards the others due to battery size and new Bosch motor.

 

[themonkster]

I've been in contact with Blazing Bikes down south. This is in stock and he'll knock 10 percent off the retail price. Takes it down to 4300. I know it's pretty slack but it's a mint looking bike.

 

[Zimmerframe]

SOLD !

I wouldn't go too insane on analysing all the numbers. I bought a Kenevo and was hugely concerned it would be nightmare for anything other than base jumping - it's not. I love it .. In ten years time shopper bikes will probably have that geometry.

 

[ggx]

It´s the 2019 or 2020 model? Nice looking girl !
Only 10% off for the 2019 model! Push it down

 

[Beekeeper]

You are probably looking for a higher spec than this one below but what I like about the Powerfly 5 2020 is it uses Shimano cassette, gears, shifters.
Has 10 speed so is probably more robust, longer lasting and has a thicker chain. New Bosch motor and Rockshox suspension all round.
It’s only 130mm travel however and you may want more, I’m not sure.
If I was upgrading from my Cube Race hardtail I’d probably get this bike as it ticks all the boxes for me and is only £3400.
There are way more expensive bikes out there but the law of diminishing returns is a factor to consider as you go up the price level.

 

[Zimmerframe]

You are probably looking for a higher spec than this one below but what I like about the Powerfly 5 2020 is it uses Shimano cassette, gears, shifters.
Has 10 speed so is probably more robust, longer lasting and has a thicker chain. New Bosch motor and Rockshox suspension all round.
It’s only 130mm travel however and you may want more, I’m not sure.
If I was upgrading from my Cube Race hardtail I’d probably get this bike as it ticks all the boxes for me and is only £3400.
There are way more expensive bikes out there but the law of diminishing returns is a factor to consider as you go up the price level.





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Isn't that a 2019 ? keeper ?

 

[dochabanero]

I've been in contact with Blazing Bikes down south. This is in stock and he'll knock 10 percent off the retail price. Takes it down to 4300.

Congrats! Thats the Rail 7 right? Nice looking bike

 

[Beekeeper]

Isn't that a 2019 ? keeper ?

You have a point there Zim. It looks like the old motor from the pic but they seem to call it the 2020 season bike on 2 shops I looked at. Beekeeper is most confused ?‍

 

[themonkster]

It´s the 2019 or 2020 model? Nice looking girl !
Only 10% off for the 2019 model! Push it down

It the 2020 one, new Bosch Motor and 625 battery.

 

[themonkster]

You have a point there Zim. It looks like the old motor from the pic but they seem to call it the 2020 season bike on 2 shops I looked at. Beekeeper is most confused ?‍

Definitely 2019 as it's not got a full size chainring.

 

[themonkster]

I'm going to go to my LBS on Friday as they are a Trek Dealer. As this other shop has offered me 10% off, I'm pretty sure they would too. They PX too so I'm hoping they'll give me near what I want for my 2018 Scott Spark 940 as a deposit. We'll see.

 

[dochabanero]

Definitely 2019 as it's not got a full size chainring.

Powefly model seems to keep the old range motors

 

[themonkster]

Powefly model seems to keep the old range motors

By the looks of it yes. Just had a read. Weird as they do the rail 5 at a similar price with the new Bosch motor.

 

[dochabanero]

Wonder how many Powerfly bikes will be flying out the dealers doors?

 

[Beekeeper]

? is this true? The old Gen 2 motor is still being made???
But it’s larger and heavier than the new one and probably costs a lot more to make.
I really thought production had stopped.
Zim, you may need to summon your genie friend again to clear this matter up or I won’t be able to sleep at night ?

 

[themonkster]

? is this true? The old Gen 2 motor is still being made???
But it’s larger and heavier than the new one and probably costs a lot more to make.
I really thought production had stopped.
Zim, you may need to summon your genie friend again to clear this matter up or I won’t be able to sleep at night ?

Maybe Trek still has a boatload in a warehouse, so they thought sod it we'll stick it on the new Powerflys and knock them out cheaper.

 

[Lee]

I'm going to go to my LBS on Friday as they are a Trek Dealer. As this other shop has offered me 10% off, I'm pretty sure they would too. They PX too so I'm hoping they'll give me near what I want for my 2018 Scott Spark 940 as a deposit. We'll see.

I think that's definitely worth a try; earlier this year wheelbase were selling the Remedy 9.9 with £1000 off the RRP, I stated to my local Trek dealer that i'd rather buy locally but can't ignore that saving, could they match it? they said yes so i bought it locally. great bike.

Good luck

 

[themonkster]

What's everyone's thoughts on this. There's at 10% offer on. Takes it down to 3600. Comes with a Lyrik, new Bosch, 625 battery, Magura MT50 brakes. SX/NX eagle.

 

[Zimmerframe]

Nice again .. I think that's the RRP for that bike.

The cube gives you the Rock Shox Deluxe Select+

The Trek the RockShox Yari RC

Rail 7 : Rail 7 | Trek Bikes

Cube 160 SL : CUBE Stereo Hybrid 160 HPC SL 625 27.5 carbon´n´grey 2020

If you're plodding about, they're going to feel pretty similar.

You're in the unenviable position of choosing it sucks ! I think I've already said it, they're all going to be good.. at some point simple passion also has to come into the equation.

And the money thing ... If you could get the cube with a discount it's then a "cheap" (*e-bike relative stupid take a zero off pricing)

Only you know what the driving force is which eventually weights your decision.

 

[themonkster]

Nice again .. I think that's the RRP for that bike.

The cube gives you the Rock Shox Deluxe Select+

The Trek the RockShox Yari RC

Rail 7 : Rail 7 | Trek Bikes

Cube 160 SL : CUBE Stereo Hybrid 160 HPC SL 625 27.5 carbon´n´grey 2020

If you're plodding about, they're going to feel pretty similar.

You're in the unenviable position of choosing it sucks ! I think I've already said it, they're all going to be good.. at some point simple passion also has to come into the equation.

And the money thing ... If you could get the cube with a discount it's then a "cheap" (*e-bike relative stupid take a zero off pricing)

Only you know what the driving force is which eventually weights your decision.

It doesn't help that no one's got any on the shop floor and they are ordered in. If the bikes were there in the flesh it would make the decision much easier.

The rear shocks are identical. The Yari on the Trek and the Lyrik on the Cube.

I've not ruled the Orbea Wild FS M20 out yet.

It's head wrecking when your throwing a lot of money at a bike.

Like you say they're all going to be good bikes. If I wasn't so impatient I'd hang on till all the pre orders have been fulfilled and they are on the shop floor . My guess that would be march or so.

Thanks for the help.