Bosch upgrade

[JoeBlow]

I've ordered an Orbea Wild FS bike with a Bosch gen 4 motor. Is there any way to tell if the software upgrade patch has been applied? The retailer did not know.

Al

 

[Doomanic]

The dealer can plug it into the diagnostics and it will tell him.

Or, if he's too lazy to do that, you can pull the firmware version up on the display, does it come with a Purion or a Kiox?

Let's be honest, if it's not the latest firmware he's going to have to update it anyway. It literally takes a couple of minutes so there's no good reason why he won't do it.

 

[JoeBlow]

Is that the dealer who I said did not know The bike had already shipped. Perhaps I didn't explain myself very well. If I do display the firmware, it's a Purion display, how do I know that it is the appropriate one?

 

[KeithR]

how do I know that it is the appropriate one?

By typing "bosch CX gen 4 latest firmware" into Google?

Updates and software versions for on-board computers and drives

Retrofitting and keeping your pedelec and on-board computer up-to-date: you can find the current software versions and updates for Bosch eBike systems here.

www.bosch-ebike.com

 

[KeithR]

If it is version 1.1.0.0 for the motor, you have the 85Nm update.

Just FYI, they're up to 1.1.2.0.

 

[JoeBlow]

A little concerning that a Bosch e-bike retailer "does not know"

Let me present you with 2 options for the same bike. £5300 ish from the shop down the road or £3990 ish from said on line retailer. Which would you go for?

Al

 

[JoeBlow]

By typing "bosch CX gen 4 latest firmware" into Google?

Updates and software versions for on-board computers and drives

Retrofitting and keeping your pedelec and on-board computer up-to-date: you can find the current software versions and updates for Bosch eBike systems here.

www.bosch-ebike.com

DOH ! It's amazing how tolerant search engines are these days and sometimes it's easy to get caught up in the process that you forget the obvious. Thank you.

 

[GrahamPaul]

A little concerning that a Bosch e-bike retailer "does not know"

Not at all surprising. In this part of Spain none of the official Bosch dealers have the computer software or knowledge to do any upgrading. About all they can do is take a motor out and replace it.

To upgrade our two Focus bikes was a 200 mile round trip to a dealer who had Trek branded Bosch software which, although it could upgrade the versions, listed out the diagnostics as zero in every column.

 

[Mteam]

Is it from bikester?

I got my wild fs from there about 3 weeks ago, it was on the older 75nm firmware, so I got it upgraded by a local bosch dealer a few days after I got the bike.

As an aside does anyone have any info as to what changes are in version 1.1.2.0 over and above 1.1.0.0?

 

[GrahamPaul]

As an aside does anyone have any info as to what changes are in version 1.1.2.0 over and above 1.1.0.0?

The folks over on pedelforum.de seem to think it's to make the motor play nicely with the new Nyon display and that it's irrelevant for those of us mere mortals with Kiox and Purion kit.

 

[JoeBlow]

Is it from bikester?

I got my wild fs from there about 3 weeks ago, it was on the older 75nm firmware, so I got it upgraded by a local bosch dealer a few days after I got the bike.

Yes. I've been watching the prices for many weeks and dithered about deciding. When I saw that they were down to the last one at £3959 I snapped it up

How did yours arrive? What did you have to do assembly/setup wise?

Al

 

[Mteam]

Yes. I've been watching the prices for many weeks and dithered about deciding. When I saw that they were down to the last one at £3959 I snapped it up

How did yours arrive? What did you have to do assembly/setup wise?

Al

The delivery tracking info they provide is next to useless, but mine took 10 working days to arrive. Once it landed in the uk the UK delivery firm called me to arrange a convenient time to drop it off.

It arrived in an absolutely enormous cardboard box, with both wheels attached and the bars twisted 90 degrees.

So you have to straighten the bars, fit some pedals, and charge the battery. The seat angle needed altering as it was poking up in the air

The brakes comes the euro way round, so you'll probably want to swap the brake lines round as well.

Suspension needs setting up too (obviously), so you'll need a shock pump as it doesn't come with one.

The gears on mine were not set up perfectly, so I set these up again.

The battery cover rattles slightly , but you can easily fix this by sticking some rubber or felt on the inside of the cover between the two locating tabs.

It's been good though, have done 112miles since I got it, very pleased with it.

 

[JoeBlow]

That's good. The only thing I might struggle with is setting up the gears but I'll give it a go. When you changed the brake pipes round did you have to bleed the brakes?

Al

 

[Mteam]

That's good. The only thing I might struggle with is setting up the gears but I'll give it a go. When you changed the brake pipes round did you have to bleed the brakes?

Al

I didnt have to rebleed the brakes, but you have to be quite careful not to spill any fluid. If you angle the brake levers so the reservoir is pointing upwards it helps stop any fluid leaking out. A friend of mine swapped his brakes round but lost a little fluid and had to bleed them.

 

[JoeBlow]

I didnt have to rebleed the brakes, but you have to be quite careful not to spill any fluid. If you angle the brake levers so the reservoir is pointing upwards it helps stop any fluid leaking out. A friend of mine swapped his brakes round but lost a little fluid and had to bleed them.

Thanks for that tip. Sounds like it might be a 2 man job.

 

[ALLMTN]

daeler up graded mine a week ago and you definitely feel the difference from 75 NM to 85 NM . life is good!

 

[JoeBlow]

The delivery tracking info they provide is next to useless, but mine took 10 working days to arrive. Once it landed in the uk the UK delivery firm called me to arrange a convenient time to drop it off.

It arrived in an absolutely enormous cardboard box, with both wheels attached and the bars twisted 90 degrees.

So you have to straighten the bars, fit some pedals, and charge the battery. The seat angle needed altering as it was poking up in the air

The brakes comes the euro way round, so you'll probably want to swap the brake lines round as well.

Suspension needs setting up too (obviously), so you'll need a shock pump as it doesn't come with one.

The gears on mine were not set up perfectly, so I set these up again.

The battery cover rattles slightly , but you can easily fix this by sticking some rubber or felt on the inside of the cover between the two locating tabs.

It's been good though, have done 112miles since I got it, very pleased with it.

How do you find the pedals? Are they good enough or is it worth replacing with something a bit more grippy.

 

[Mteam]

How do you find the pedals? Are they good enough or is it worth replacing with something a bit more grippy.

It didnt come with any pedals.

In any case I'm quite particular about my pedals, I use the same pedals on all my bikes.

 

[JoeBlow]

According to the schedule it should come with VP537 pedals which don't look particularly good. Out of interest what do you use?

Al

 

[Mteam]

According to the schedule it should come with VP537 pedals which don't look particularly good. Out of interest what do you use?

Al

I've just googled those pedals, they look terrible , probably only just good enough for very lightweight use, ie just pedalling along flat tracks/roads.

I use raceface atlas pedals , but the oneup pedals also look decent.

 

[JoeBlow]

I've just googled those pedals, they look terrible , probably only just good enough for very lightweight use, ie just pedalling along flat tracks/roads.

I use raceface atlas pedals , but the oneup pedals also look decent.

I agree. I've ordered something more appropriate, DMR V12. I can't justify spending £100 on pedals, I'm a Yorkshireman

 

[Mteam]

I agree. I've ordered something more appropriate, DMR V12. I can't justify spending £100 on pedals, I'm a Yorkshireman

Yeah you don't need to spend a lot, I always used to use dmr v12's, but they fell apart quite quickly it seemed.

I think superstar pedals are a decent better value for money option than the race face or oneup pedals.

 

[Fuzz]

A little concerning that a Bosch e-bike retailer "does not know"

I would expect a Bosch e-bike retailer to provide a Bosch diagnostic report as part of the PDI before you take delivery?
This will list the software versions for the motor, controller and battery.
If it is version 1.1.0.0 for the motor, you have the 85Nm update.

If the retailer is not capable of that (I would think about shopping elsewhere), then you can check it yourself on the Purion display.
Turn on, whilst simultaneously holding down the + & - buttons, and it scrolls through the software versions.

If it is version 1.1.0.0 (or later... cheers Keith) for the motor, you have the 85Nm update.

For everyone's information... I had my bike upgraded to the 1.1.0.0 but there are about 7 versions of the update, and not all update to 85Nm... I got caught out and had to take the bike back, to upgrade to the 85Nm version. The bike shop had no idea, and I had to instruct them. The upgrade from 75Nm to 85Nm was quite noticeable. Getting them to print out what they've done, or looking at their diagnostic screen saves any confusion.

 

[PetrD]

And today, there is actual version 1.1.2.0 for bosch gen4 performance cx.

 

[KeithR]

And today, there is actual version 1.1.2.0 for bosch gen4 performance cx.

Bosch upgrade

I've ordered an Orbea Wild FS bike with a Bosch gen 4 motor. Is there any way to tell if the software upgrade patch has been applied? The retailer did not know. Al

www.emtbforums.com

 

[Steve940]

Just had mine done today with 10 week sevce...feels no better at all,infact if anything of feels less powerful..ill test properly at a later date. How.do I check software on the purion ?

 

[PetrD]

Just had mine done today with 10 week sevce...feels no better at all,infact if anything of feels less powerful..ill test properly at a later date. How.do I check software on the purion ?

Press plus and minus buttons and power on.

 

[JoeBlow]

I think you hold down the + and - keys together.

 

[GrahamPaul]

I think you hold down the + and - keys together.

....as you switch it on. (Else you just do a reset)

 

[Steve940]

I reset lol....anyway after doing it correctly it read 4.0.0.0