Bosch gen5 bikes, which ones do you like?
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Rando_12345
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I think most bikes have been announced at this stage, probably a few more stragglers over the next few weeks.
If money was no object, Crestline for sure, every single number in the geochart looks perfect to me, spec is good and I feel competitive with other brands at the 10k level. But I don't intend to spend 10k on a bike knowing both how easy they are to damage and how much the resale value plummets.
Surprisingly, the Cube one77 has really crept up on me, most of the geo and spec is very good even down to the 5k build. Would prefer full 29, not too keen on headset routing and the BB is a touch low. Will wait for ride reviews as cube historically have been all over the map (i.e. there have been stinkers). I'm also confused how they managed to make the bike so heavy with the new system and a carbon frame.
The big miss for me is Orbea not speccing an 800Wh on the new wild, I had convinced myself that a non-removable battery could be something I live with if I had the 800Wh (with an extender for big days). Looks like this isn't on the cards. Ironically, this now puts the 23/24 Wild M20 on the map as it can be had heavily discounted for around 5k.
The DJI motor in a 170mm 22-23kg bike would be the ideal, but we probably have a year to wait before something like that materialises.
If money was no object, Crestline for sure, every single number in the geochart looks perfect to me, spec is good and I feel competitive with other brands at the 10k level. But I don't intend to spend 10k on a bike knowing both how easy they are to damage and how much the resale value plummets.
Surprisingly, the Cube one77 has really crept up on me, most of the geo and spec is very good even down to the 5k build. Would prefer full 29, not too keen on headset routing and the BB is a touch low. Will wait for ride reviews as cube historically have been all over the map (i.e. there have been stinkers). I'm also confused how they managed to make the bike so heavy with the new system and a carbon frame.
The big miss for me is Orbea not speccing an 800Wh on the new wild, I had convinced myself that a non-removable battery could be something I live with if I had the 800Wh (with an extender for big days). Looks like this isn't on the cards. Ironically, this now puts the 23/24 Wild M20 on the map as it can be had heavily discounted for around 5k.
The DJI motor in a 170mm 22-23kg bike would be the ideal, but we probably have a year to wait before something like that materialises.
DJI - lacking geo and spec for enduro, no local support, not yet trail tested irl,...
CUBE - Suspension design not really my thing, internal headset cable routing, the geo is good and all else is good
TREK - the geo jumps between sizes are to big, fall right in between, otherwise the bike looks great with good spec and the new battery latch is good
ORBEA - Nice geo, looks mint, but internal headset cable routing is a no go and just the 600Wh(New 21700 cells) and 750(old 18650 cells-less efficient)
MUSTACHE - no local support or partnership LBS in case of trouble, didn't bother to look at it
CRESTLINE - no local support or partnership LBS in case of trouble, price, didn't bother to look at it
SANTA CRUZ - no local support or partnership LBS in case of trouble, bike looks mint, not sure about the new suspension setup, the only and non removable 600Wh battery is a no go
FOCUS - geo to trail oriented
SPECIALIZED - pretty Interested on the motor system(if what I read in forums is true) coming with the new Levo, although I am not sure, I/or anyone will like the new pricing...surely it won't be any less than previous models.
So currently there isn't any new Bosch emtb out at the moment that would fit into my box.
There is also still no third party ANT+ or BT connectivity with the new Bosch BDU38.
CUBE - Suspension design not really my thing, internal headset cable routing, the geo is good and all else is good
TREK - the geo jumps between sizes are to big, fall right in between, otherwise the bike looks great with good spec and the new battery latch is good
ORBEA - Nice geo, looks mint, but internal headset cable routing is a no go and just the 600Wh(New 21700 cells) and 750(old 18650 cells-less efficient)
MUSTACHE - no local support or partnership LBS in case of trouble, didn't bother to look at it
CRESTLINE - no local support or partnership LBS in case of trouble, price, didn't bother to look at it
SANTA CRUZ - no local support or partnership LBS in case of trouble, bike looks mint, not sure about the new suspension setup, the only and non removable 600Wh battery is a no go
FOCUS - geo to trail oriented
SPECIALIZED - pretty Interested on the motor system(if what I read in forums is true) coming with the new Levo, although I am not sure, I/or anyone will like the new pricing...surely it won't be any less than previous models.
So currently there isn't any new Bosch emtb out at the moment that would fit into my box.
There is also still no third party ANT+ or BT connectivity with the new Bosch BDU38.
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Rando_12345
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I have never owned a carbon bike, but the orbea wild is the only one I would make the stretch for just because the bike is much lighter in carbon (at least 1.5kg) and possibly better built (previous gen alu models were not reliable).
Has there been a pivot LT with bosch release/leak? In europe at least Pivots don't really start under 8 or 9k, so orbea has multiple cheaper bikes, but with not so good components. And Pivots don't really go on sale, whereas Orbeas are currently 20-30% off for 2023 and some 2024 models!
There is no leak on pivot 2025 ebike yet
I was close to buy a Pivot LT because it was on sale and had Shimano, but it was EP800 instead of 801 and it was full 29” so I went for Bullit…and Bullit was even cheaper. Bullit is better than any of these new Bosch bikes so no reason to change
Roundbadge
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I’d buy another Crestline!
Love my first gen.
I wouldn’t hesitate to buy the new 180
Love my first gen.
I wouldn’t hesitate to buy the new 180
franciscoasismm
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Neither Bosch nor SHIMANO will buy my next e bike with ZF CentriX 90Nm 2.5kg
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surlyrides
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I rode the crestline in Squamish last year and I didn't like it as much as I thought I would after all the hype. I have the 23 orbea wild Ltd and I really love that bike! I think orbea nailed it. But I have to say that my favorite e-bike so far is my '23 kenevo sl - that is the sickest bike I've seen!
If pushed then the Crestline but with their limited number run it doesn't instill confidence.
Santa Cruz after 20 plus years of VPP and their patent having expired have come up with a real contender but have shot themselves in the foot with having a non-removeable battery and only 600wh.
I've been running a Yeti 160e for 2 years so will be interested to see what they bring to the party next, I'm in the market for a new bike but so far none of the newly released bikes float my boat, I'm interested to see what Canyon, Giant, and Pivot bring to the party before deciding on my next purchase.
Santa Cruz after 20 plus years of VPP and their patent having expired have come up with a real contender but have shot themselves in the foot with having a non-removeable battery and only 600wh.
I've been running a Yeti 160e for 2 years so will be interested to see what they bring to the party next, I'm in the market for a new bike but so far none of the newly released bikes float my boat, I'm interested to see what Canyon, Giant, and Pivot bring to the party before deciding on my next purchase.
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I'm going to wait until Pivot releases the Shuttle LT with the gen 5...
...then it will be between the Santa Cruz and Pivot.
...then it will be between the Santa Cruz and Pivot.
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