I really wish I knew! I have not found any information on what the difference between 4.*** and 5.*** there was a link on the flow app but I didn’t click on it as I did not want anything to cause problems with the update!
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Big software update coming for bosch smart?
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I guess, yes, it must have some sort of esim/sim for it to connect to Bosch and for the gps to always track the bike’s location.
This was taken from the connect module instructions.
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For the ConnectModule to function, a functioning GPS and mobile connection are prerequisites.
The ConnectModule has motion sensors, a global navigation satellite system and mobile communications. This means the ConnectModule can identify suspicious movements of the eBike, determine the local position of the eBike and gener- ate a local alarm.
Positions and movement data are displayed to the owner of the eBike in the eBike Flow app.
The ConnectModule thereby also facilitates other services, such as <eBike Alarm>, which is provided for the end cus- tomer in the eBike Flow app. Additional information regard- ing the individual services of the eBike Flow app are provided in the app.
Costs may be incurred for use of these services. Details are displayed in the eBike Flow app.”
“
For the ConnectModule to function, a functioning GPS and mobile connection are prerequisites.
The ConnectModule has motion sensors, a global navigation satellite system and mobile communications. This means the ConnectModule can identify suspicious movements of the eBike, determine the local position of the eBike and gener- ate a local alarm.
Positions and movement data are displayed to the owner of the eBike in the eBike Flow app.
The ConnectModule thereby also facilitates other services, such as <eBike Alarm>, which is provided for the end cus- tomer in the eBike Flow app. Additional information regard- ing the individual services of the eBike Flow app are provided in the app.
Costs may be incurred for use of these services. Details are displayed in the eBike Flow app.”
Thanks bobbinman....so the update is really to do with the theft lock ?
russellb
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I have the Bosch Smart system so it is meant to update over the air .... no it wont update, I am still stuck on 4X
I was on chat to Bosch on Facebook chat, pointed out the website says 5X which they say yes that the current version. I then said well my smart system wont update and they never replied further.
There are now two Smart Sytems around and yours is perhaps not the one for 5.13:
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russellb
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2 Smart systems ? though they only had one, whats the other versions ?
Just got this reply from Bosch:
"thank you for your patience, we have been looking into your query. We can confirm that version 4.21.10 is the latest firmware update available for the Smart System. Our website has preempted a software version that will be available in Australia later this month."
Please see pic of Bosch website Germany in my posted link.
russellb
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Come and get it 5.X update is here AU
CharlieHorse
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Nothing available in USA yet.
Have you made sure you're also got the latest version of the app?
I had to go to the Google app store and force the app to update.
russellb
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Weird how they choose to slowly roll out updates, I wonder what the reason is. The update to 5.X for me came available immediately after the IOS app updated to a new version. Maybe thats the reason, they have to wait until Apple approves the app update for each country which then allows the V5.X bike update.
Thank you that sorted it
CharlieHorse
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iOS app updated today in USA and firmware update is now available!
the update didn't show up on the list in my phone but i searched flow app in the store and then i was able to update with no issue
then the bike updated as well , unlike last time
customizing emtb and tour+ is nice
Jeremybub
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Trek Rail 9.8, I’m in California and system has a firmware update, app says get a cup of coffee and come back in 20 minute 
Here are some more details:
www.bosch-ebike.com/news
www.bosch-ebike.com/news
Beta Testers? 🫣
CharlieHorse
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Tested Ibis Oso with 5.x FW and the distance traveled on the Kiox display versus Strava. Were within 5%.
I am running 5.13.0 that I was able to update about 2 weeks ago, my flow app is 1.11.5 (82) all running on a Cube reaction pro 625 (2023 model) with a Bosch performance line CX motor. I went out for a ride yesterday and the milage matched my wife's non electric bikes statistics. The flow app is telling me there is an update, but I will hold off on that one! Based in the UK. Hope this helps.
New thread created for the problems with the update on Trek bikes.
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Rail (750Wh) - Bosch Smart V5 update Mileage/Speed error
I'd refrain from the update at the moment, first ride today, the speed and mileage are all wrong now. 🤬
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New update here in Germany for App and System. Assistance modes can now be selected by app.
iOS app: 1.18.6 (124)
LED Remote 10.12.3
Drive unit 9.13
Battery 10.8.2
Kiox300 10.10.0
iOS app: 1.18.6 (124)
LED Remote 10.12.3
Drive unit 9.13
Battery 10.8.2
Kiox300 10.10.0
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Not in Spain yet.
A few days ago I was told by Bosch that it was coming a FW upgrade that would bring Dual Battery back to Smartsystem, but it requires to be configured by ebike manufacturer.
App came today and when connecting to the bike the updates for the system came as well. Did not find something yet on Bosch website, only in the iOS App Store.
This is what is supposed to be new, machine translation from german:
„After downloading the new version of the Ebike Flow App, update your Ebike with the smart system using the Ebike Flow app. In this way you can use all the functions and improvements that we have listed here. Please ensure that all components are attached to your Ebike before you update your eBike.
Kiox 300 and Kiox 500 - think dynamic like you.
With our new "Dynamic display" function, you automatically get the information that matches your current driving situation: If you are e.g. drive uphill, you see your performance, your cadence and the covered vertical meters.
You may be wondering: How does my Ebike know whether I am going uphill, downhill or on the level? Your Drive Unit recognizes the slope value, sends it to your display - and your Kiox 300 or Kiox 500 shows you everything independently.
In the settings of the Ebike Flow app under “My Ebike”> “Display configuration” you activate the dynamic display. To do this, you have to create them as a new screen. Before the journey, select the dynamic display on Kiox 300 or Kiox 500 and the rest are practically automatically.
Whether belt, band or smartwatch: heart rate display in the smart system
From now on you can connect your heart rate meter via Bluetooth to your Ebike and thus track your heart rate on Kiox 300 or Kiox 500 while driving.
You use the Ebike Flow app to connect, this is how it works: Keep your chest strap ready, for example, go to the settings of the Ebike Flow app under "Mein Ebike"> "Ebike Pass"> "Components" and add your new device. Please note that the device must be in connection mode to be coupled. In addition, you have to actively add this new display to Kiox 300 or Kiox 500-via the "Display configuration" function under "My Ebike".
Uphill, downhill: Discover the height profile of your next trip
From now on you can also keep an eye on the height profile of your current trip on Kiox 300 or Kiox 500. As you navigate, your display will also show you which climbs and recovery phases are waiting for you.
The new screen “vertical meter” can be added in the Ebike Flow app via the "Display configuration" function under "Mein Ebike".
And don't forget: The connection between smartphone and eBike must always exist in order to be able to use the advantages of this function.
Favorite driving modes - put together what suits you.
With this update we give you the opportunity to put together your four favorite modes from all the driving modes available for your eBike - and to adapt them individually as usual. Instead of the economical ECO mode, you can use the auto mode, for example, which automatically adapts the support to the ambient conditions.
This new function can be found on the start screen or in the settings of the Ebike Flow app under "Individual driving modes".
Transform support into motivation. New advertisements for Kiox 300 and Kiox 500: "Use of driving modes" and "performance division"
Two new screens for Kiox 300 and Kiox 500 are now showing you how to travel on your current trip. Just choose while driving the corresponding driving mode and you are shown how your own performance is in relation to motor support to the percentage.
To see "performance distribution" on the display use the screen of the same name. Maybe that motivates you to achieve your fitness goal next time with less support from the electric motor.
Flexible navigate while driving: quick menu for Kiox 300 and Kiox 500
You can adjust goals by starting navigation to one of your last goals. You can also stop your active navigation. Keep the selection button of the LED remote, mini remote or the Purion 200 for more than a second - without taking your smartphone out of your pocket.“
This is what is supposed to be new, machine translation from german:
„After downloading the new version of the Ebike Flow App, update your Ebike with the smart system using the Ebike Flow app. In this way you can use all the functions and improvements that we have listed here. Please ensure that all components are attached to your Ebike before you update your eBike.
Kiox 300 and Kiox 500 - think dynamic like you.
With our new "Dynamic display" function, you automatically get the information that matches your current driving situation: If you are e.g. drive uphill, you see your performance, your cadence and the covered vertical meters.
You may be wondering: How does my Ebike know whether I am going uphill, downhill or on the level? Your Drive Unit recognizes the slope value, sends it to your display - and your Kiox 300 or Kiox 500 shows you everything independently.
In the settings of the Ebike Flow app under “My Ebike”> “Display configuration” you activate the dynamic display. To do this, you have to create them as a new screen. Before the journey, select the dynamic display on Kiox 300 or Kiox 500 and the rest are practically automatically.
Whether belt, band or smartwatch: heart rate display in the smart system
From now on you can connect your heart rate meter via Bluetooth to your Ebike and thus track your heart rate on Kiox 300 or Kiox 500 while driving.
You use the Ebike Flow app to connect, this is how it works: Keep your chest strap ready, for example, go to the settings of the Ebike Flow app under "Mein Ebike"> "Ebike Pass"> "Components" and add your new device. Please note that the device must be in connection mode to be coupled. In addition, you have to actively add this new display to Kiox 300 or Kiox 500-via the "Display configuration" function under "My Ebike".
Uphill, downhill: Discover the height profile of your next trip
From now on you can also keep an eye on the height profile of your current trip on Kiox 300 or Kiox 500. As you navigate, your display will also show you which climbs and recovery phases are waiting for you.
The new screen “vertical meter” can be added in the Ebike Flow app via the "Display configuration" function under "Mein Ebike".
And don't forget: The connection between smartphone and eBike must always exist in order to be able to use the advantages of this function.
Favorite driving modes - put together what suits you.
With this update we give you the opportunity to put together your four favorite modes from all the driving modes available for your eBike - and to adapt them individually as usual. Instead of the economical ECO mode, you can use the auto mode, for example, which automatically adapts the support to the ambient conditions.
This new function can be found on the start screen or in the settings of the Ebike Flow app under "Individual driving modes".
Transform support into motivation. New advertisements for Kiox 300 and Kiox 500: "Use of driving modes" and "performance division"
Two new screens for Kiox 300 and Kiox 500 are now showing you how to travel on your current trip. Just choose while driving the corresponding driving mode and you are shown how your own performance is in relation to motor support to the percentage.
To see "performance distribution" on the display use the screen of the same name. Maybe that motivates you to achieve your fitness goal next time with less support from the electric motor.
Flexible navigate while driving: quick menu for Kiox 300 and Kiox 500
You can adjust goals by starting navigation to one of your last goals. You can also stop your active navigation. Keep the selection button of the LED remote, mini remote or the Purion 200 for more than a second - without taking your smartphone out of your pocket.“
Latest update thread:
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