90% of ebikes leverages are a joke.

[Eddy Current]

Today I speak directly with Antonio of linkagedesign blogspot. He told me that in his opinion pretty much brands are “standarized“ their leverages to dpx2 and superdeluxe shocks. Doesn’t sound good to me ...

 

[The Hodge]

Today I speak directly with Antonio of linkagedesign blogspot. He told me that in his opinion pretty much brands are “standarized“ their leverages to dpx2 and superdeluxe shocks. Doesn’t sound good to me ...

Eddy ..with the greatest respect to you as someone I don't know ..most of what you have written doesn't sound good to me ..?

 

[Eddy Current]

Eddy ..with the greatest respect to you as someone I don't know ..most of what you have written doesn't sound good to me ..?

Look how simple is ... from Cube, one of the most if not the most conservative brands

 

[The Hodge]

Thanks ..but no thanks ..

 

[Gary]

Today I speak directly with Antonio of linkagedesign blogspot. He told me that in his opinion pretty much brands are “standarized“ their leverages to dpx2 and superdeluxe shocks. Doesn’t sound good to me ...

Considering those are exactly the shocks most brands are going to be specing their frames with I'd agree it doesn't sound "good". it sounds absolutely ideal.
Adjusting leverage progression in the design process of a frame is as simple as moving one shock pin pivot location. And yes manufacturers could easily make this adjustable. Doing generally also adds needless complication, parts, cost and weight to the end user. Adjustment very few owners even understand nevermind make use of.

[Cool story warning]
Back in the early 00s one of my DH frames had adjustable pivot locations at the main pivot, chainstay, seatstay, and shock mounting position and rocker mounts. The 2 piece linkage plates had 3 shock pin positions and could be flipped back to front, left to right and upside down. I worked out at the time this amounted to around 300 different pivot combinations (In my defense I was injured for nearly a year) These adjustments enabled that frame to be configured with anything from 5.5-13" rear travel with the same 2.75" stroke shock, masses of options for various amounts of progression adjustment, leverage ratio and leverage curve, BB height adjustment and the 2 main pivot locations gave the option to tune antisquat.
Thousands of those frames were sold but less than 1% of owners ever actually changed a single pivot location from how they were shipped from the factory.

Stop complaining about everything and ride your bike. One day you might not be able to.

 

[CjP]

Stop complaining about everything and ride your bike. One day you might not be able to.

Doubt that’ll happen, he has so much wisdom pass on..

 

[Eddy Current]

Considering those are exactly the shocks most brands are going to be specing their frames with I'd agree it doesn't sound "good". it sounds absolutely ideal.
Adjusting leverage progression in the design process of a frame is as simple as moving one shock pin pivot location. And yes manufacturers could easily make this adjustable. Doing generally also adds needless complication, parts, cost and weight to the end user. Adjustment very few owners even understand nevermind make use of.

[Cool story warning]
Back in the early 00s one of my DH frames had adjustable pivot locations at the main pivot, chainstay, seatstay, and shock mounting position and rocker mounts. The 2 piece linkage plates had 3 shock pin positions and could be flipped back to front, left to right and upside down. I worked out at the time this amounted to around 300 different pivot combinations (In my defense I was injured for nearly a year) These adjustments enabled that frame to be configured with anything from 5.5-13" rear travel, masses of options for various amounts of progression adjustment and leverage curve, BB height adjustment and the 2 main pivot locations give the option to tune antisquat.
Thousands of those frames were sold but less than 1% of owners ever changed a single pivot location from how they were shipped from the factory.

Stop complaining about everything and ride your bike. One day you might not be able to.

Don’t make laugh amigo

We are paying similar amounts of money as for a petrol engine motbikes that are way more complex to develop and built than add another hole to the frame.

You guys keep happy and dont demand none to brands, one day (maybe few months) bikes came same price only for the frame and you still try to justifice with that commie excuses “most users” “makes sense” fuc* “most users” and makes sense because all mount Fox and Rock Shox ... this is dragging us down like the crabs on the bucket and the big noise bike ceo laughing and rubbing his hands

 

[Zimmerframe]

Don’t make laugh amigo

We are paying similar amounts of money as for a petrol engine motbikes that are way more complex to develop and built than add another hole to the frame.

You guys keep happy and dont demand none to brands, one day (maybe few months) bikes came same price only for the frame and you still try to justifice with that commie excuses “most users” “makes sense” fuc* “most users” and makes sense because all mount Fox and Rock Shox ... this is dragging us down like the crabs on the bucket and the big noise bike ceo laughing and rubbing his hands

It's almost poetry ..

 

[Eddy Current]

Orange bad man! Spe communist zombie c*nt! Bring back the factories to the US!

 

[routrax]

I can’t take anyones advice who drives a Audi TT. I even find it hard to understand that anyone who has/ owned a Audi TT even rides an EMBT. Audi TT are for hairdressers who would never ride a bike because it would mess there hair up.

I've got a MK1 TT, also had a few MX5s. They're both great cars and have loads of room for my scissors and hairdryer in the boot.

 

[R120]

Theres far too much progression in this thread, its screwing with my linear thinking

 

[Eddy Current]

Politic

Theres far too much progression in this thread, its screwing with my linear thinking

That’s nice men. Progressive thinking leads to countless funded phonys . Keep your mind linear, and straight (you know)

 

[Gary]

You guys keep happy and dont demand none to brands, one day (maybe few months) bikes came same price only for the frame and you still try to justifice with that commie excuses “most users” “makes sense” fuc* “most users”

Don't worry Big Boss. I'd absolutely never attempt justificing anything you've typed as makey sensey at all, let alone to most users


but we love you for it Xx

 

[Rosemount]

It's just Reese Wilson riding his Trek Eeb rather quickly.
There's plenty of footage of him doing so on his insta if you follow him.

Nah not an instagram kinda guy .
And even when I click the links they don`t work at my house . So those grapes must be sour ? lol .

 

[Gary]

You sound old

 

[Eddy Current]

Don't worry Big Boss. I'd absolutely never attempt justificing anything you've typed as makey sensey at all, let alone to most users


but we love you for it Xx

Im often lost in translation sorry.

enjoy and remember ... make UK great again!

Over a Beer: Why Ebikes Are the Spawn of Satan (mostly) - Singletracks Mountain Bike News

 

[Rosemount]

@Eddy Current

I think you might have the wrong thread ?
Maybe this one ? The Crazy Conspiracy Threory Thread - EMTB Forums
ha ha .

 

[Rosemount]

You sound old

Born before the wind .
Oh so much younger than the sun .