500 w/h battery range.

[Mikerb]

Just out of interest ....my battery is on 14 charge cycles and the bike has 400 miles recorded. Given that the battery has 50% remaining charge, my original estimate of 30 miles max range seems about right. All of the mileage is offroad and the majority is natural forest singletrack. The bike is a Comp...all stock...and I weigh 78kg. My modes are 25/50 50/100 100/100. (Turbo only used for the steepest tech climbs and usually fairly brief). The battery has only been charged to 100% about 5 times and I have never gone below 20%. Longest rides have been c 25 miles.

 

[Utah Rider]

Depends on if you are climbing or not. My record in the summer is 3500ft in 12 miles continuous pull. Of course that means another 12 miles downhill back to the car for 24 miles total. Two days ago I did 12 miles continuous pull at 15 degrees Fahrenheit for 2500ft pushing snow the whole way.(and then downhill back to the car). Light riders have reported 50 mile runs and the 700wh has reports up to 70 miles.
When I say continuous pull I mean the motor is in constant output. That is a true range calculation. Usually around 2hrs battery output. In three years I have never tested the flat range because that is boring as hell bumping against the governor all day and I have a road bike for that. Cheers.

 

[levity]

AWESOME pix, @Utah Rider !!!

It's great that your battery even works in those conditions.
Pretty obvious why you don't want it to run out.

 

[Mikerb]

Depends on if you are climbing or not. My record in the summer is 3500ft in 12 miles continuous pull. Of course that means another 12 miles downhill back to the car for 24 miles total. Two days ago I did 12 miles continuous pull at 15 degrees Fahrenheit for 2500ft pushing snow the whole way.(and then downhill back to the car). Light riders have reported 50 mile runs and the 700wh has reports up to 70 miles.
When I say continuous pull I mean the motor is in constant output. That is a true range calculation. Usually around 2hrs battery output. In three years I have never tested the flat range because that is boring as hell bumping against the governor all day and I have a road bike for that. Cheers.

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To be honest I do not notice a great deal of difference in battery use over a complete ride where climbing is concerned because the climb invariably means a n equal downhill blast where no pedal assist is used at all. Im in the south of England so only hills no mountains. I have ridden in Wales (2000ft climb) and the Peak District (less elevation but very rocky).
Ps I am less than a mile from the sea so snow is pretty rare!!

 

[Zimmerframe]

@Utah Rider I was looking at your pictures in awe last night .. Amazing ... I want some snow !!

Do you find covering your cassette and jockey wheels in a protective coating of ice makes them last longer ? Wonder if you could zip tie two tooth brush heads into your derailleur or if they'd just freeze up and make things worse.

@Mikerb I think range varies hugely for every rider depending on how they ride, surfaces, slopes, angles, modes, speeds. I'm 70kg's. A couple of times I've managed 1% per KM on tarmac (500wh) over a maximum of 6km's. The most I can normally reasonably ever expect in Eco is 50k, but that's 50k of constantly as fast as possible at all times. In Turbo for me, it generally seems to average out at 28k and a maximum of 1 hour, again that's riding at 100 effort - up, down, sideways, no easing off at any point. I'm totally dead and soaked with sweat by the end of that and incapable of going much further anyway. Uhmmm, actually I'm half dead and soaked with sweat about 15 minutes in ...

 

[tacoma22]

I did 14 miles, 1k elevation gain today. Used 20% battery. Nearly all single track.
25/35 40/60 90/90 settings.
I did nearly all of the ride in eco even with some in off for flats.
I weigh about 160lbs

 

[jsh6061]

There are so many variables . There is a local trail that I ride regularly , it’s 11 miles with 850 feet of elevation , tight twisting single track the whole way. If I use eco set to 20/20 I can complete the ride in just over 1 hour and some minutes and only use 20% of the battery. Now if I go full turbo 100/100 I can complete the lap in under 46 minutes and use 80% off the battery . It is a 500wh battery. 2019 Levo comp alloy. It really comes down to the type of ride you want to do and how you want to ride . With the setting of 20/20 you need to produce the watts , which helps build your strength , with the 100/100 setting you get to work on the bike handling skills , both rides produce a workout but are different and compliment each other. It took me a year to get the bike handling skills to go 46 minutes, when I started I was around a hour in 100/100 and wouldn’t have been able to do the 20/20 lap based on my fitness

Hope this helps.

 

[55plusmxinsanity]

14/45 trail mode single track avg about 9mph, I’m good for 40 miles or so

 

[jbrinsfi]

2018 Levo with 504 watt battery. I have just over 1000 miles on it now and dividing odometer miles by total charge cycles, I have been seeing just over 39 miles per charge. I ride mostly in Southern California and my average ride is 15 to 20 miles with 1500 to 2500 feet of total climb. If I am riding solo I am usually "ECO". On technical stuff or sharp climbs then "Trail". Almost never "Turbo".

 

[Zimmerframe]

Proving myself very wrong on yesterdays' ride ... 22km's ... Started with 96% battery . Flat after 18km's. VERY muddy, boggy and wet, even got flagged down to help pull a stuck tractor out (with another tractor).

Times - Eco 10.6% Trail 30% Turbo 59.4%

Which related to :

Distance Eco 8.8% Trail 22.6% Turbo 68.7%

And 4k's of pain with no assistance when I was already spent from an hour maxed out (though you could argue I had a nice 10 minute break half way round tractor pulling)

An amazingly poor 285m elevation, compared to a normal minimum of 1000m.

Standing water and thick gloopy mud sucks - your battery !

 

[Mikerb]

That seems very low but 68% turbo probably explains why. I doubt my use of turbo is ever morr than 5%. Why not try increasing support in trail to see if overall that not only reduces your use of turbo but in doing so increases battery life. In the current very wet period of weather I head for forests on steep hillsides and ride the upper trails and downhills. No standing water that way.

 

[Zimmerframe]

That seems very low but 68% turbo probably explains why. I doubt my use of turbo is ever morr than 5%. Why not try increasing support in trail to see if overall that not only reduces your use of turbo but in doing so increases battery life. In the current very wet period of weather I head for forests on steep hillsides and ride the upper trails and downhills. No standing water that way.

It wasn't a circuit I'd normally ride. It fell into the category of "rainy day stupid challenge" - Can I go faster on a relatively flat circuit on the Kenevo in Winter, than I could on an e8000 hardtail in summer. If I'd not picked up a submerged branch around the derailleur at one point, I would have just done it.. Tractor Towing totally scuppered the rest of the time comparison, but it's only for fun? ...

Statistically, if I'd not lost my bottle and I'd carried on paddle steaming/mud surfing and trying to aquaplane obstacles in Turbo, rather than dropping down to trail and eco to stretch things out, I might have made it ?! It's a difficult one to work out for certain and is very much conditions dependant and doesn't always work out how you'd expect. I used 40% of my battery in eco/trail for only 31% of the distance.

Edit : Sorry, that's totally incorrect .. that was "time" compared to distance .. not "battery" compared to distance .. Battery was 20% in eco/trail for 40% of the distance ... But for "fun" 99% of the fun was definitely in Turbo and rider power was consistently higher in Turbo as it was easier to push myself knowing I had a "speed/time" goal .

 

[brizi2003]

So many ways to run the battery down. My Kenevo Comp had it's 450Whr battery replaced under warranty so now has a 500Whr battery. The max miles I've managed was the other day (it was cold - less than 6degC) and I managed 56.91 miles with 2595ft climbing. All in Eco set at 20/45.

 

[Utah Rider]

That ride kinda proves a theory that I had. The bike is going to give around 3000ft at a basic eco setting. Whether it is 12 miles straight up or 4 times the distance at 52 miles. Still 3000 ft.
Anyway, this morning at 10 deg F / -12 C I noticed that my power buttons stopped working do to cold and I really needed more power for a couple of climbs (ie stuck in eco mode). I whipped out my phone and changed the power setting through blue tooth. Yee Haw! LOL

 

[brizi2003]

That ride kinda proves a theory that I had. The bike is going to give around 3000ft at a basic eco setting. Whether it is 12 miles straight up or 4 times the distance at 52 miles. Still 3000 ft.
Anyway, this morning at 10 deg F / -12 C I noticed that my power buttons stopped working do to cold and I really needed more power for a couple of climbs (ie stuck in eco mode). I whipped out my phone and changed the power setting through blue tooth. Yee Haw! LOL

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Not really earlier this year (with the 450Whr battery) I did 45.64miles with 7228ft of climbing and had 12% left. Mostly in Eco set at 10/20, Trail at 20/40 & Turbo at 45/80. I mainly rode in eco with trail/turbo used very little.

 

[Rusty]

Imma fat bastage (112kg) - I get around 40km (25m) with about 650m (2130ft) climbing fairly consistently. This is with both my Levo and my Shimano powered Scott.