Curious if anyone has heard rumors of any changes. Trying to decide if I should upgrade the wife's '18 now or wait until the fall when the '21 comes out.
2021 Levo
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Depends what your looking for!
New releases tend to be every 6-8 months and old models then get discounted.
Thing is, it’s like laptops and phones. Your best just buying when you want to rather than wait for the next tech...unless you have a deep wallet..!
I think most of us believe it will have the “Specialized” (Mahle manufactured) motor from the Levo SL/Creo replacing the Brose. They might have to tweak for higher power output, but a bigger heat sink should be all that is required.
Whilst there is no doubt the Brose has a very natural feel, it has some fundamental weaknesses (for instance the excessive number of ports where water can get in, and that quiet but vulnerable belt). Most of these are because it wasn’t purpose designed for ebike usage. Many still like the motor, but it has clearly cost Spec a packet in warranty replacements and they have sunk so much cash into the partnership with Mahle it’s hard to think that they will keep Brose in the lineup for their next generation of bikes.
More info...
Any answers at Spesh day about motor and moisture issues ? - EMTB Forums
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Canmore TLCC 29
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No plans to replace the Brose on full fat bikes for 2021, so say they.
They will continue with Brose until their contract runs out I am sure, but I don't think anyone knows when that will be - it appears it will cover at least MY 2021. As soon as that contract is up though they are sure to drop Brose; you don't create a partnership to develop a completely bespoke motor like they have with Mahle then keep buying units from another supplier.
WillN
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re: the Video
(about 14 mins) Totally dodged the reliability issue.
We want to trust the guy, he is after all wearing jeans, t-shirt and trainers... but he did not answer the question. The way journalists handle this is they just keep asking the important question, maybe rephrasing it a bit, and then pointedly saying, "You haven't answered the important question...." When I read that they are using a different motor, I got interested. Maybe they solved the problem? Ducking the question strongly indicates "Nope."
After about 18 minutes I stopped watching. What would be the point? "What do you mean it's broken? it's the new color."
Maybe 2022.....
Whoever makes an EMTB with a motor that doesn't 'just break' or that we can DIY fix (for much less than $1200) will win - they'll certainly get my money.
(about 14 mins) Totally dodged the reliability issue.
We want to trust the guy, he is after all wearing jeans, t-shirt and trainers... but he did not answer the question. The way journalists handle this is they just keep asking the important question, maybe rephrasing it a bit, and then pointedly saying, "You haven't answered the important question...." When I read that they are using a different motor, I got interested. Maybe they solved the problem? Ducking the question strongly indicates "Nope."
After about 18 minutes I stopped watching. What would be the point? "What do you mean it's broken? it's the new color."
Maybe 2022.....
Whoever makes an EMTB with a motor that doesn't 'just break' or that we can DIY fix (for much less than $1200) will win - they'll certainly get my money.
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Eduardoramundo
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£6,000 ?
ebikerider
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Aus site up too. Some nice spec upgrades along with a decent price hike.
Eduardoramundo
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Downgrade on fork though and 9% price increase in UK
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maynard
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Wow $ 14000 for expert model. Making my second hand expert purchase with only 30 ks on the clock for $8000 look like an investment.
maynard
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pretty cool colours
maynard
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21000 for s works. Ummmm yeah nah .
$8k for that was a good buy for sure.
$10200.00 for the Levo Comp running SLX and Fox 36 Rhythm is poor value, do people pay full retail on Levo's?
I know most bike shops will do better than list price but wasn't sure if that was the case with Levo's.
I now wonder what the other 2021 price hikes will be from other manufacturers.
Matt_Rider
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Be interesting to see what they can be bargained down to. We are looking at buying 3 Levo's at the same time here in Melbourne. It's down to the Levo Comp and the YT Decoy Comp.
maynard
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Does base model come w 700 battery?
No, the base comes with the 500w unfortunately. I was considering a base model and speccing up the fork, shock and brakes but I don't believe it's worth it compared to other options.
I’ve had them in the shop a few days. They went up $250 but I think the increase was justified with the spec changes. The belt is stronger than the old one
Still no carbon comp for the UK and still no Frame,motor, battery and associated wiring, tcu etc.. option (this was offered in Germany on the 2020 s-works)
Expert has gone up by £500 to £7750!!! but has gained FOX forks and rear shock, 12 speed X01, 35mm dia bars and stem but only one colour option
On my 3rd Levo/kenevo in 4 years and cant see me getting a 4th one next time i want to upgrade
It seems the comp now comes with Shimano hubs according the spec list (presume due to the 12 speed shimano groupset and Specialized not having a microspline freehub for their own hubs)
The entry level, expert and s-works still have the same Specialized hubs they have been coming with for the last few years
Expert has gone up by £500 to £7750!!! but has gained FOX forks and rear shock, 12 speed X01, 35mm dia bars and stem but only one colour option
On my 3rd Levo/kenevo in 4 years and cant see me getting a 4th one next time i want to upgrade
It seems the comp now comes with Shimano hubs according the spec list (presume due to the 12 speed shimano groupset and Specialized not having a microspline freehub for their own hubs)
The entry level, expert and s-works still have the same Specialized hubs they have been coming with for the last few years
Comp is £500 extra for a worse fork, only the Spesh fanbois will think that's a good deal!
Sooo, does this mean 2020 is over? Because that would be awesome.....
maynard
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Yeab wtf . Is that a bike thing .
Matt_Rider
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Mind telling me how a Fox36 is worse than a Lyrik?
MrBrownstone
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The new comp is the ticket. Stronger belt? I’d buy one. Love that whitish colored one.
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