vannibombonato
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Based on previous launches, do we expect "flagship" reviews to be released today with the launch or at a later date?
2020 Specialized levo/kenevo rumors?
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I would like to put a 29 wheel on it but not in the back wheel. Front 29er would be great I think.
Niner09
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I’m disgusted with Specialized. I’ve been saving my pennies all summer anticipating great things with the unveiling of a new Kenevo. After seeing the new Enduro I felt I should hold off and see how the new suspension design is received.
Now that they have not translated that new Enduro to the Kenevo and came out with Frankenstein piece of...
I’m not giving them any of my pennies.
Specialized has always been over priced but I’ve bought from them anyways because they’ve built beautiful cutting edge bikes in the past. This bike is a cop-out and not worth my hard earned cash. YT, Rocky Mountain and others are going to leave them to the wayside. Much better bikes overall at a significant savings.
I much prefer this image...
To this image...
If all specialized was going to do was tweek for 2020, why not kit-bash the 2019 motor mount and down tube into the 2019 Kenevo. All the Kenevo needed was the new battery and motor. Altering the geo would be simple as well.
Instead they killed a breed.
(For those who like it, sorry for the rant but we should all be disappointed with this turd)
Now that they have not translated that new Enduro to the Kenevo and came out with Frankenstein piece of...
I’m not giving them any of my pennies.
Specialized has always been over priced but I’ve bought from them anyways because they’ve built beautiful cutting edge bikes in the past. This bike is a cop-out and not worth my hard earned cash. YT, Rocky Mountain and others are going to leave them to the wayside. Much better bikes overall at a significant savings.
I much prefer this image...
To this image...
If all specialized was going to do was tweek for 2020, why not kit-bash the 2019 motor mount and down tube into the 2019 Kenevo. All the Kenevo needed was the new battery and motor. Altering the geo would be simple as well.
Instead they killed a breed.
(For those who like it, sorry for the rant but we should all be disappointed with this turd)
I think that's a little harsh. Some of the advantages of the new enduro are:
- Weight mounted low due to shock placement: how do you manage to package a shock and motor in the same place on the new Kenevo? The majority of weight is as low as it can be already on the Kenevo.
- Higher anti squat: do you want high anti-squat on an ebike, given that decending should take priority over pedalling efficiency.
- Longer chainstay: this can be achieved with Levo/Stumpy platform.
- More rearwards initial axle path: I admit this would be nice.
- More rising rate to work with coil: again I'll admit this would be nice.
Overall though I think the Stumpy/Levo platform is a better contendor, and it's almost exactly what I want from an eBike (although tough wheels, rather than Roval cheese would be nice).
Niner09
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That’s why I wanted to hold back and see how the new suspension system was received. I also understand there’s not enough real estate for it all on an ebike.
The original Kenevo has plenty low enough weight and I prefer the short chainstays over the Levo and new Enduro. No reason why they couldn’t tweek the suspension leverage ratios to accommodate a coil better. In theory that’s what they’ve done with the 2020 long travel “Kenevo” Levo.
The original Kenevo has plenty low enough weight and I prefer the short chainstays over the Levo and new Enduro. No reason why they couldn’t tweek the suspension leverage ratios to accommodate a coil better. In theory that’s what they’ve done with the 2020 long travel “Kenevo” Levo.
DaveyPetey
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You are looking for longer chainstays? Why? It's the lazy way to lengthen wheelbase.
Niner09
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Remember what GM did to this icon?
Where the Pontiac line now?
Where the Pontiac line now?
You can say what you like, but I'm getting the feeling your not really all that impressed with the 2020...
Niner09
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What’s there to be impressed about.?You can say what you like, but I'm getting the feeling your not really all that impressed with the 2020...
Personally I prefer short chainstays, because I'm medium sized, but just listing one of the advertised "benefits" of the new Enduro.
I don't actually like the new Enduro - anyone who has owned a Specialized will know that pivot bolts don't last long, and the new Enduro adds two additional pivots, all for the sake of getting the centre of gravity low - something that's not required on the Kenevo.
Niner09
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I’m hoping this is all a ruse and when they drop the new web page for the 2020 Kenevo it’s something completely different.
Eduardoramundo
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It was impressive when it looked like it had a cloaking field...
It's one of those tricky ones .. it might ride amazingly out of the box.
Looks wise, it somehow lacks any excitement or passion that the last one had for some of us.
Maybe the 2023 V-Wing Kenevo will bring back a bit of sparkle and ingenuity.
Still, for any one with an X-wing Kenevo, at least we can all sit back, smile and think "Yeah... I like my bike" ..
I'll grant you though, it does look like they made a gentlemans agreement with the other manufacturers and said "Ok, you guys have all pumped a lot of money into churning out Kenevo alternatives, we promise to make something that's not going to steal any of your sales"
Niner09
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A big miss!!!
Eduardoramundo
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The reach is massive! I am 6’2” and would need a medium at 470mm!
Mcharza
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With the cost of 300-400, auts!
Soooooooooooooo ..... after this long, arduous and painful journey ...... Now that IT'S here ....
Is it a 2020 Comp or the E1 ???????????????????
Or a 2019 Expert and a spare battery for the same/less money ? (you said you like your bikes standard for easy re-sale, so I won't suggest mods).
It's for a bike, normal monetary units don't apply. You have to knock a "0" off the end for your brain to make sense of things/translate to reality and accept what you're doing.
Quite. It feels wrong to buy something 50mm longer than my dh bike bike re wheelbase. I guess it's the new thing and I can't knock it until Ive tried a super long bike.
If they get any longer they will be able to take 2 batteries in the downtube
Five in what time zone though ??
The Spanish site have replaced the 2020 Keveno with the Turbo Vado, reception obviously wasn't all that good .
The French site have put up the 2021 Kenevo - looks hot ! Think I might get one ..
Turbo Kenevo | Specialized.com
Andrés Grau
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Think i will stay with my old Kenevo instead the new Stumpy Evo - Kenevo.....
Sorry, CET
Niner09
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Good plan! Sweet rig!!!
I’ve ridden with mine amongst the Saguaro Cactus. Amazing creatures they are!
Hmmm I really think they should have made a slight bend in the top tube, if nothing else, at least for the looks.
This one has the typical "collapsing tower" look of so many of the new Long Slack bikes with steep seat angles get, and that is really exacerbated by the very abrupt angle in the convergence between top tub and seat tube in my opinion.
I think it looks "funny", and in aviation we have an adage: "If it looks right, it flies right"
This does not really look right to me I'm afraid. Though it is not alone with this look...
This one has the typical "collapsing tower" look of so many of the new Long Slack bikes with steep seat angles get, and that is really exacerbated by the very abrupt angle in the convergence between top tub and seat tube in my opinion.
I think it looks "funny", and in aviation we have an adage: "If it looks right, it flies right"
This does not really look right to me I'm afraid. Though it is not alone with this look...
DaveyPetey
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Man I'm torn on the numbers. It's long, but maybe too long? Maybe too slack? With a 40 it's gonna be even slacker. Longer chainstays aren't a plus for me. But nice and low. Hmmmmm...
DaveyPetey
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What travel did you set your boxer at?
No, but it would have to be less based on the fork and the battery
That’s not really a fair comparison, there are 40 years between those two GTOs.
The bottom GTO beats the top one in every category except looks.
Kinda like the new Kenevo vs the old Kenevo
Wait, it is a fair comparison
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