2017 KTM Fogo 271

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EddieJ

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2017 KTM Fogo 271

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I have long had a passion for hardtail mtb’s be them analogue or pedal assist, and have found the eMTB version through ownership of the superb KTM Macina Race, to make the perfect bike for my wet weather/winter use. The one think lacking for me though, was plus size tyres. After riding a borrowed eMTB that had them fitted, it wasn't too long before the Macina Race was sold, and I took delivery of a KTM Fogo 271​

As things stand the KTM Fogo 271 exceeds my requirements by a significant margin, so I am more than happy with my choice.​
The Magura Boltron T-20x110 front forks is an interesting one for me, as I have read so many reports both good and bad, which made me keen to own a bike that had them fitted, just so that I could come to my own conclusion about them. I have also previously been asked privately about the forks and what I knew about them, so at least I finally get to discover for myself, and can offer opinion accordingly, and not just based from hearsay. On that basis, and after many months of use and hundreds of miles of pure off road fun, I don't have a bad thing to say about them. They do have an odd characteristic of pulling to the left at the initial braking stage, but I don't even notice that any more. It also didn't take long to work out that the a vast proportion of complaints about the forks, is down to poor set up the owners.​

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The full bike/component specifications are detailed below, but as things stand, there has been very little that I have change. I've replaced Intuvia with Purion, fitted a Ragley Tracker saddle, a 70mm Easton stem, and changed what I believe to be a KS LEV Integra dropper post, in favour of a Rockshox Reverb Stealth that I removed from the Macina Race. The listed items are just personal preference and nothing more.​
I ride throughout the year and in all conditions, and treat my bikes very much as tool to do a job, and to date KTM bikes have filled this role very well, but with slight limitation, which was tyre size. 27.5” plus has removed this limitation. The plus size will fulfill the role of providing superb low-pressure grip in respect of riding wooded knarly terrain and also over rocks etc. I had intended to swap out wheels and run 2.25 tyre size winter months, but I have yet to have had any issues in respect of grip, so will be leaving them as is.​
As with any bike that I receive, the first job is to strip the bike down to the component stages, then re assemble studying parts and construction as I go. By doing so I gain a greater insight into the construction of a bike, and can see what if anything in my opinion could or should be changed. Also, if anything fails whilst riding, having already stripped and rebuilt the bike, I have a head start on how to repair things. I get as much pleasure from working on bikes, as I do riding them.​
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This is where it gets interesting for me, as after having pulled the bike down, I was very impressed by the frame. The build quality and paint finish is superb, but it is what is behind all that, that I was interested in. The shape and tube sizing has been improved, and just turning the first screw to remove the motor covers, revealed the first thought out design feature. A small banana shaped cover which when removed, gives clear and easy access to main connectors of the Bosch CX drive unit. That in itself was a simple, but welcome change. KTM have also now chosen to use an additional two motor mounting points. This again impressed me, not because the standard three wasn’t enough, but more from the potential that it may prevent any motor creaking, as the loading on the mounts is now more equal.​
Turning the frame upside down gave the biggest and most pleasant surprise from the point of view of working on a bike. KTM have chosen to redesign the cable routing and internal cast mounts to the frame. Routing cables, wiring, hydraulic brake and dropper post hose, is now effortlessly easy and simple to do. I’m very impressed that such R&D has been put into this side of things, but I guess that it must save valuable seconds during the factory assembly stage. Speaking of cable and hose routing, I was also pleased to note that the frame entry points for routing, are now fractionally larger as well. A lot of thought has gone into the production of this frame.​
Removal of the two tyres was next on the list, and it was yet another pleasant surprise to see that the rims are tubeless ready, not just compatible. Always good to save a bit of time and money when setting them up to run tubeless. As with any new bike that I purchase, before riding I also take the wheelset to a friends cycle shop, and get him to check the trueness and spoke tension. Thankfully no issue with either. With the wheels returned, it was just a simple job to install Stans valves and Effetto Mariposa CaffeLatex sealant. A sealant that I have no hesitation in using or recommending.​
Whilst in its knock down stage, I decided to take advantage of the situation, and fitted an AMS XL Honeycomb frame guard kit. It seemed silly to pass up the opportunity to test a kit, so time will tell as to how effective that it is. It was certainly easy enough to apply, although the frame colour doesn’t really mask any slight air bubbles very well. I have also added 3M clear film to several areas of the frame as well.​

Thanks to KTM Bike Industries, The Little Bike Shop, Bikegoo, Effetto Mariposa, Fork Juice, and Magicshine UK.​
Full component specification
  • 2017 KTM Macina Fogo 271 8s EX1
  • Frame :- Macina MTB 27.5"+ BOOST, Alloy for Bosch, with semi-integrated battery
  • Frame sizes :- 43cm, 48cm and 53cm.
  • Bike colour :- Matt light grey, black + toxic orange.
  • Front fork :- MAGURA Boltron inverted, T-20x110 120mm travel, weight 2,200g
  • Headset :- KTM Team B303AM drop/in-tapered, +10
  • Headset bearing numbers :- MH-P28 and MH-P08M
  • Stem :- KTM Team KT-6 7° 95mm Weight 133g
  • Handlebar :- KTM Team HB-RB12L riser, rise 15°, Width 720mm
  • Handlebar grips :- KTM Team VLG--775-12D2 Diamond fin with end Clamps
  • Brake rotors :- Shimano RT86 6-bolt, 180mm front, 180mm rear. 260.4g pr
  • Brakes :- Shimano Deore XT M8000 Weight 554g pr including caliper/hose/lever assembly
  • Trigger shifter :- SRAM SL EX1 8speed Weight 122g
  • Rear derailleur :- SRAM RD EX1 8speed. Weight 289g
  • Front sprocket size as supplied 16T
  • Cassette :- SRAM XG899 11-48 ( 11, 13, 15, 18, 24, 32, 40, 48) Weight 360g
  • Chain :- SRAM EX1 Weight 273g
  • Pedal cranks :- SRAM EX1, ISIS for Bosch. Length 170mm. Weight 510g pr
  • Pedals :- VP components VP-539 black platform, with replaceable pins. Weight 370g pr
  • Wheel set :- KTM Line 27-5" plus B/B Tubeless ready
  • Wheel rims :- Ryder edge 35, 32 spoke hole, suitable for 2.3 to ‘plus’ size of 3.0. Weight 580g
  • Front hub :- 20mmThrough axle DT Swiss 350 classic-6-bolt 20/110/TA BOOST. Weight 239g
  • Rear hub :- 12mm Through axle DT Swiss 350 classic-6-bolt 12/148/TA BOOST. Weight 305g
  • Tyres :- Schwalbe Nobby Nic 70-584 TL-easy, Snake skin, Apex. Weight 910g per tyre.
  • Saddle :- Fizik Gobi M7 with Manganese rails. Weight 255g
  • Seat post :- KTM Comp JD-YSP12L hydraulic adjustable 100-370, diameter 30.9mm Weight 560g
  • Display :- Intuvia LCD, with Walk assist
  • Drive unit :- Bosch Performance Line CX 36V-250W, 25km/h 75NM of torque, four assist levels,
  • Eco giving 50% Tour giving 120% Sport giving 210% Turbo 300% Maximum torque available
  • per assist level, Eco 40Nm Tour 50Nm Sport 60Nm Turbo 75Nm
  • Battery :- Bosch Powerpack 13.8Ah - 500WH
  • Motor weight :- 4kg
  • Battery weight :- 2.6kg, dimensions 325mm x 92mm x 90mm
  • Overall Bike weight :- 21.4kg

Ride photos and details to follow.
 
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This was some the first photos, taken whilst still lovely and clean. Not that it isn't anymore.

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EddieJ

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Taking the Fogo out for a spin in the new playground.

Certainly plenty of potential with it.

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Slightly frustrating was not being able to get up this, but I won't give up and will do it. It is far tougher than it perhaps looks.

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Now that water levels are going down, it was also good to get in a bit of stream bed riding, which is one of my favourite types of riding.

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It's also been good to get out exploring some of the other local terrain again.

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EddieJ

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I really love hardtails, especially plus size ones.

Owning both a full suspension eMTB and hardatil eMTB at the same time, I found my self using the FS bike less and less, until I stopped using it altogether. Hardtails suit my riding requirements perfectly, and I can't ever see me ever owning another FS bike.

Having said that, after having been recently accepted as an ambassador for Rutlands Cycling, I am about to take delivery of another FS eMTB, but that will be for long term demo purposes only.
 

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I was only commenting at the weekend , I wonder if ktm will produce WP suspension for thier bikes I see that one has some very fancy looking USD WP FORKS what are they like , if they are anything like the motorbikes it will be the best
 

EddieJ

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Hi guys.

Doomanic, I applied to this advert when I saw it. #TeamRutland: Apply to be an Ambassador! | Rutland Cycling I was informed that approx 250 people applied, and I was one of the very lucky seven to be selected.

And here we all are. #TeamRutland: Our Ambassadors | Rutland Cycling

Kernow, I very much suspect that you wouldn't like the front forks. I really love them, and find them superb for the riding that I do. They are super compliant and feel just right to me.

Many don't like them though, and I can fully understand why. Under heavy braking, they pull to the left, which is initially quite disconcerting. This is more evident at high speed riding, which I don't overly do any way, or when riding on the road, whee there is more friction. Again I don't ever tend to ride on the road.
Brake rotor size would be another issue for a faster or heavier rider. I really don't think that they would cope with a larger brake disc size that the 180mm that is fitted. I suspect that the torque reaction would be too great for them.
The rebound isn't also over great, but again for my slower speed riding, this isn't an issue.

I'm very happy with the set up, but I wouldn't rush out buy another set if these fail.
 

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