Levo Gen 2 12spd SX/NX/GX Eagle

[118]

got you!!! Honestly I think the 11/50 with the 34 up front will already do what I want. Normally I ride only trails with my Levo but a couple of weeks ago my wife wanted to ride a paved trail that is like 18 miles and my back was still sore from my Tahoe trail (it sucks to get older) so I took the Levo and one higher gear would have made a world of difference, so this setup will probably give me that and even a slightly better crawl setup!!

I'm after similar. Should I be able to increase my cadence on the climbs, then I'm hoping to see some slight range extension also..

 

[Flafyre]

Just did an AXS 12 speed EShift upgrade along with 36T Chainring and Industry Nine 360 Wheelset and 8120 4 Piston XT brakes! Rails like a Porsche now

 

[Benson]

I’ve upgraded my 2019 Levo to full GX Eagle as I felt the factory 11 speed SRAM groupset was just unbearably clunky, even being really careful with shifting under load it still made a hell of a racket. However, GX Eagle is just as bad, no better in fact.

I’ve always been an SRAM fanboy, I have full AXS Eagle on my two analogue bikes and it works great, but my next Levo upgrade is going to be Shimano XT.

 

[Cavi]

I honestly also am a SRAM person, I have always felt they downshift under load better than Shimano, much louder but they at least do shift....

 

[salko]

I’ve upgraded my 2019 Levo to full GX Eagle as I felt the factory 11 speed SRAM groupset was just unbearably clunky, even being really careful with shifting under load it still made a hell of a racket. However, GX Eagle is just as bad, no better in fact.

I’ve always been an SRAM fanboy, I have full AXS Eagle on my two analogue bikes and it works great, but my next Levo upgrade is going to be Shimano XT.

I think you have problem somewhere else, my GX 1x11 anx NX cassette work just fine, shifts nicely with no clunks.

 

[Benson]

I think you have problem somewhere else, my GX 1x11 anx NX cassette work just fine, shifts nicely with no clunks.

Nah, they all clunk. Perhaps it depends on your miles, individual tolerance or the type of riding you do, and it’s true I don’t yet know that Shimano is any better, but the extra torque makes Eagle shift like a tractor on an eBike.

 

[Benson]

I honestly also am a SRAM person, I have always felt they downshift under load better than Shimano, much louder but they at least do shift....

Not tried Shimano yet so that may well be the case. Going to give it a try though just to scratch the itch. A friend of mine recently bought an eBike with SLX and even that seems to shift better than GX Eagle on an eBike.

 

[steve_sordy]

Nah, they all clunk. Perhaps it depends on your miles, individual tolerance or the type of riding you do, and it’s true I don’t yet know that Shimano is any better, but the extra torque makes Eagle shift like a tractor on an eBike.

I always back off the power when I shift. I'm an engineer (well, used to be) and I always have had mechanical sympathy. So I shudder when you state "the extra torque makes Eagle shift like a tractor on an eBike". Because I back off the power, the fact it's an ebike makes no difference to the shifting.
But then I do not race in events, so I have never had any motivation to shift under power. In fact with an ebike, if I really, really must shift under power, I shift mode instead.

 

[118]

I always back off the power when I shift. I'm an engineer (well, used to be) and I always have had mechanical sympathy. So I shudder when you state "the extra torque makes Eagle shift like a tractor on an eBike". Because I back off the power, the fact it's an ebike makes no difference to the shifting.
But then I do not race in events, so I have never had any motivation to shift under power. In fact with an ebike, if I really, really must shift under power, I shift mode instead.

Do not race? Clearly you've never followed yourself around Pines @steve_sordy

I concur with your shifting practices. Banging through any transmission, only signifies poor usage techniques..

 

[Benson]

I always back off the power when I shift. I'm an engineer (well, used to be) and I always have had mechanical sympathy. So I shudder when you state "the extra torque makes Eagle shift like a tractor on an eBike". Because I back off the power, the fact it's an ebike makes no difference to the shifting.
But then I do not race in events, so I have never had any motivation to shift under power. In fact with an ebike, if I really, really must shift under power, I shift mode instead.

Again, it depends how you ride. I too ride with mechanical empathy and am hyper conscious of not changing under load but it’s impossible to do so ALL of the time unless all you’re doing is pottering around fireroads. Even with carefully timed shifts, ebikes and analogue bikes do shift differently with Eagle (I have three bikes running Eagle at present).

 

[steve_sordy]

Do not race? Clearly you've never followed yourself around Pines @steve_sordy .........

I do not often find myself taken aback when reading something on the 'net, but that had my jaw dropping!

You flatterer you, what do you want, and when can I get it for you?

 

[steve_sordy]

Again, it depends how you ride. I too ride with mechanical empathy and am hyper conscious of not changing under load but it’s impossible to do so ALL of the time unless all you’re doing is pottering around fireroads. Even with carefully timed shifts, ebikes and analogue bikes do shift differently with Eagle (I have three bikes running Eagle at present).

I agree, it does depend upon how you ride.
I've had 7, 9, 10, 11, and 12-speed. Nothing unusual about that of course. I've never snapped a chain, peeled a side plate, or lost a chain and jammed it into the frame either. (I suspect that there is also little unusual about that either). When I had 12-speed it was Eagle X01 on one bike and I was so pleased with it that I converted my other bike from Shimano 2x10 to SRAM 12-speed, mostly GX. Again, I had zero problems with either. I got stellar chain life with Eagle 12-speed, it changed my expectations about what was possible. The one big thing I discovered with 12-speed was that the mech hanger had to be spot on (not just close enough), otherwise impeccable shifting was most unlikely. After several alignment adjustments by my LBS, I bought a Park Tool Mech hanger alignment & adjustment tool and set it bang on, not just within +/-3mm. End of niggling shifting problems. I had to do that on both bikes.

Even at my advanced age I don't potter about on fire roads; I have done my time on rough trails in the Peaks, the Alps and that Welsh downhill bike park, Antur Stiniog (never again on a light trail bike! Yikes!) And I never damaged a chain even when getting the occasional clunky shift through my own incompetence.

I let a mate of mine borrow my 3x9 hardtail once. He is a lot lighter than me and yet he not only snapped the chain within the first half hour, but so badly damaged it that I had to remove six links from it to get him going. The chain was now too short to engage the big ring, and the granny ring was too badly bent to use and had to be replaced later. The frame was badly gouged too. He said he was sorry (So that's all right then). The punishment was that he had to do the rest of the ride on the middle ring alone. He said it was tough. (Good!)

 

[Koosh]

I went to AXS XX1 Eagle. Expensive but awesome. So quick and direct.

 

[JetSedgwick]

Haven't done it to eMTB, but I changed to normal MTB Shimano's 12 speed XT. Cassette, chain, derailleur and shifter, it was before that full Sram NX. What a different, like night and day. Very good upgrade.

Interested to hear what the differences are...can you describe?

 

[Mcharza]

Interested to hear what the differences are...can you describe?

Crisper shifting, weight down and shifting under the load

 

[JetSedgwick]

Crisper shifting, weight down and shifting under the load

pretty much that's the list. I'm shopping a new bike and maybe I'll switch to Shimano.

 

[Cavi]

I broke down and changed my order to the x01 shifter instead of the GX