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@vadII - mate's bike needs to go back for warranty on the motor. Can I just change everything back to default settings on Stunlocker and then connect to Etube and let it update everything to the latest firmware without a flag being set or similar?

Which manufacture have you been successful with?

See my post above about getting a rotor magnet and getting a dealer to change the software to run a mullet setup. Then you can get a Volspeed chip

No offence but this isn't a thread about Volspeed, what you're running isn't even for rim magnet Bosch bikes

Seen a post on Orbea group in FB listing the parts for conversion to a rotor magnet, orbea are authorising Bosch dealers to change the software for a mullet setup. That and a standard Volspeed sounds like a cheaper and more reliable option

Not sounding great really, seems like a very expensive Beta product so far

£300+ to go backwards to a scabby old spoke magnet? I'm just going to live with it at the moment

I meant that's not helpful that he's not installing it and giving the desperate masses the first feedback! But yes, if you could read my mind in future that would be super, thanks!

Canyon and Orbea for two

Well, that's not helpful! Also wrong, winter riding is hilarious on ebikes! Our trails don't see much traffic so doesn't create a problem. Although the cleaning probably doesn't do the bikes much good.... Anyway, tell him to send it to me and I'll test it for him, free of charge!

Says end of Jan, doesn't it? Interested to see how well they work

Ouch. Getting into not worth it territory

True but rather than buy a PCE can't you just borrow an android phone? You only need to do it once. Also the poster above you didn't specify android or IOS

The firmware is available on the Internet, you just need a laptop /pc and a phone, you don't need the PCE unit. Google Shimano firmware downgrade and download the eTuning pdf instructions, they are pretty clear. Below might help a bit further Create a folder on your desktop with two...

@slavio - does it use the countdown timer at the end of a ride to fool the anti tamper software like the previous version?

Which power mode were you in?

Only if you put your return address on it - if I find out you've dipped it in novichok when I start throthing at the mouth I want to have some anthrax ready to pop in the return post to you ;)

I know but same idea, I just don't have any mastic tape at the moment. Will have to see how the silicone lasts, chain may well just rip it up

So did Peartune warranty the two that went pop?

My Snail chainring turned up yesterday, I do love the Chinglish!