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Not too far stretched, it was intentionally exaggerated. I think that about 100Nm in bicycle should be totally enough for normal use. If someone is going to use this bicycle only in mountains maybe extra 40Nm will be usefull. We will see.

Thx for this screenshoot. It shows that M510 is not worse than CX, good to know, because my M510 is flying to me :-)

I have just ordered my M510. I hope it will be good enough, I have bicycles with CX 4gen, so I will have good comparition. I was focused on M560, but due to 2 reasons I decided for M510: a) i dont wanna b e a beta tester b) I think that I want to build bicycle, not e-motorbike.

Its very interesting what are you saying about m510. I wrote in other places of internet that m510 is almost the same as bosch cx4.

You can order this tool from Chili. I did it.

If this is true and applies to all vendors it is NOT funny.... it's even dishonest on the part of the vendors and Bafang :D Chili said that the engines of the April version are already improved and should be quiet.... but it turns out that they are NOT. I said some time ago that this is just...

Could you share this video?

This is a side effect of the volume reduction :-) it is total silent now ! Bravo Bafang ;-) No kidding perhaps it is a driver-panel issue? Do you use panel from M560 or some else, older?

It is interesting from what batch was this motor.

No, both metal.

500W has metal gears, not nylon.

Where did you find so optimistic way of thinking that bafang will produce silent gears... Wow! I think that they do not know how to achieve it :)

We agreed here few days ago that it is only marketing for now... and I agree with you that there is no chance to make this engine silent without changing material of the gear. I think that Bafang sees no other option than to claim that they have done something to improve problem with noise...

There is nothing more than words... silent version, improved version... but noone has confirmed this. I would like to remind that version from January 2024 was supposed to be quiet.

@Tomblarom has engine produced in 2023. @_gregor you have from January 2024. Let's compare internal gears and other elements... I'm near sure that everything is the same :-)

I hope you are right 😀

What can you say about M510 engine? Is it powerfull enough for you? Why not M560? 😀

Noone has new batch motor? Maybe someone will share his impressions.

Did you tested bike already? Share your impressions pls :-)

In My opinion they do nothing to reduce noise. 60-70dB is still veeery loud.