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    All New 2019 Specialized Turbo Levo launched

    "Yes, you could get a cheaper bike with better components. Will it be a better bike though, because it had better components?" - As long as the frame has reasonable geometry then 100% yes. I just don't see why it has entry-mid level components given the price is four thousand pounds. The better...
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    All New 2019 Specialized Turbo Levo launched

    I just think people need to be honest when it comes to things being overpriced. You are paying for name alone, not performance or build quality or components. If you know that going in, then you're making an informed decision and that's perfectly fine, but for a lot of people, they're going to...
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    All New 2019 Specialized Turbo Levo launched

    But the price of a top end Merc stays the same each year, and you don't need to upgrade the brakes, windows, car seats, steering wheel etc as soon as you get it, you get all higher end components from the start... German made cars are better, that's what you're paying for, and I am sorry but...
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    All New 2019 Specialized Turbo Levo launched

    I do find in lots of the examples you've given the components are of a considerably higher spec than on this levo though. I just think they've gone too far in both directions, too cheap components and too much of a premium in the price, you can go for the brands you've suggested and get a far...
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    All New 2019 Specialized Turbo Levo launched

    Yes, those components are poor, and should not be anywhere near a bike upwards of 4k. The battery capacity is 504w, same as 3 year old bikes, nobody cares about the cell density if it doesn't increase the overall watt hours. There are actually plenty of bike brands that are designing and...
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    Cube 160 Action Team

    I love these bikes, and just been offered a 2016 team version, only 600 miles, brand new basically, for only 2k... incredibly tempting. How are you guys enjoying them?
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    All New 2019 Specialized Turbo Levo launched

    I'd like to genuinely know why its even 5.3% more, that's absurd year on year increase. The car industry doesn't do this, new cars are the same price each year, it really doesn't matter how you spin it, these bikes are massively overpriced for what you get spec wise. If they are putting 100% of...
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    Devinci AC XT is here :)

    I don't know too much about those bikes but it does look awesome.
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    All New 2019 Specialized Turbo Levo launched

    I think it might make the 2018 models temping, already seeing ex demo ones and the like around 3.5k, then if you buy another battery, you're still only spending around 4.2k for what would still be a really cutting edge bike with approx 1kwh range (- whatever the demo took from the first 504wh)...
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    All New 2019 Specialized Turbo Levo launched

    Pretty cool looking bikes, but basically style over substance till the S works, and it seems to be about 30% over the price it should be, but it you've got the cash, why not? Personally, I think its a bit of a cheek to offer a 500wh battery on any 2019 models. I bought my bike in 2016 and...
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    Hi Everyone, new member but lurked for a few weeks...

    Hey Bongofish, yeah this is sort of the dilemma i've been dealing with, a cracking deal popped up on the 2018 Cube Stereo 160s from 2018, 20% off.. 800 quid, which is decent, but still trying to resist a little longer... I've really had no issues relating to it being an emtb, all the issues...
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    Hi Everyone, new member but lurked for a few weeks...

    Awesome forum and couldn't resist the pull to join up and start chatting with everyone any longer! I bought a Cube Reaction Hybrid 400 almost 3 years ago now and I haven't followed the progression of the bikes in that time I've been away, so upon looking at the new bikes, I have been amazed how...
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