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Not sure to follow you when you say that EP8 is a much better motor. More sensitive to pedal pressure, you say? Assurance delivered is more supple on mahle motor, it has simply less torque. But it doesn’t mean assistance is any less reactive! Even maybe the contrary, but my test of EP8 equipped...

Got my comp carbon two weeks ago. Already made 2 trips to Eifel National Park (Belgium-Germany border). I can’t say enough how happy I am with this bike. I considered the turbo levo as well. And SL was definitively the right decision! No problem to ride with buddies on full fat ebike, and man...

True, on picture at least! And kudos to Orbea for this! Because EP8 is more massive than SL1.1. That’s physics! But it is well hidden behind cranks! Need to see it through different angles though ... ;)

Not sure about bag of bolts ;) However, I’m not convinced the ep8 (even detuned) fits the analog like light ebike concept. At least not as I see it! Rattle noise, drag (yes still there) and more importantly reliability might become issues, to a greater extend than for sl 1.1! :)

indeed FF turbo levo got a price increased recently, hopefully this is not the case for the SL. You seems to have found a good offer for your Rise, I found some very interesting ones for SL expert or Comp carbon. But I still cannot make my mind. Price is obviously not the only criteria. But...

Dude this seems quite biased! You a comparing a mid range bike at 7600eur to entry level bike at 6000eur. Of course the M10 is better kitted, it costs 1600 eur more. You should compare the Orbea you ordered to sl comp carbon or event expert (2020 model can be find for 6500 on some sites). I...

Same applies for the opposite mate. Juste cause a newer « better » bike is launched, doesn’t mean the former is less good. I guess it is just different. Orbea is lighter full shimano bike, with the characteristics we know for such motor. The motor is just restricted with a fancy RS sticker: ;)...