21 years without washing a bike, i just wipe off the excess.
I save time
I save issues
Worst advice ever, a bike must be cleaned after each ride if possible.
A dirty bike is not a fast bike...wash it carefully and there will be no issues.
21 years without washing a bike, i just wipe off the excess.
I save time
I save issues
Wash, dry, lube repeatWorst advice ever, a bike must be cleaned after each ride if possible.
A dirty bike is not a fast bike...wash it carefully and there will be no issues.
I ride twice a day i am not wasting time and my bikes rarely see the shop.Worst advice ever, a bike must be cleaned after each ride if possible.
A dirty bike is not a fast bike...wash it carefully and there will be no issues.
21 years without washing a bike, i just wipe off the excess.
I save time
I save issues
Agree. dude obviously doesn’t live in the UK or those two rides a day are a gentle urban commute and not through the bogs I usually ride through weekly. You’re not towling my bike down after those rides I can assure you. Even the jet wash struggles!Living and riding in the UK this wouldn’t be fun..
How many miles bud? Shocking news this
I’ve been riding Bosch and shimano EMTB’s in boggy Lancashire UK for years now, jet washed after ever ride with no issues st all. This Yamaha motor would meltVery few.
Not been jetwashed either.
Not sure yet if the connector O-ring has allowed it in, if has got in via the wire grommets, if it's capillaried in through the wire itself from an outside connector or if it's got into the motor through a bearing or the vent and just corroded the power connector because it's at the bottom of the motor.
Trouble is, they won't allow us to pull it apart to find out, and their solution is to "clean the contact and return the bike to the customer", which is going to work for what, a week at best.
This isn't just a Yamaha/Giant issue, all motors have water ingress issues.
I'm working on a solution for all compatible motors, maybe to offer a conversion kit in time.
I Can't divulge too much information because I might patent the idea yet. It's not actually a new idea, it's a new application of an old idea.
All motors give trouble here (in boggy Lancashire)I’ve been riding Bosch and shimano EMTB’s in boggy Lancashire UK for years now, jet washed after ever ride with no issues st all. This Yamaha motor would melt
It just rain here, a lot. The dirt is mostly abrasive too so everything gets killed.Hmmm it looks like perhaps the motor was underwater for a bit… do you ride through creeks or water at all ?
Is there any grease application needed for a new bike to help keep the water out? Or not effective…Very few.
Not been jetwashed either.
Not sure yet if the connector O-ring has allowed it in, if has got in via the wire grommets, if it's capillaried in through the wire itself from an outside connector or if it's got into the motor through a bearing or the vent and just corroded the power connector because it's at the bottom of the motor.
Trouble is, they won't allow us to pull it apart to find out, and their solution is to "clean the contact and return the bike to the customer", which is going to work for what, a week at best.
This isn't just a Yamaha/Giant issue, all motors have water ingress issues.
I'm working on a solution for all compatible motors, maybe to offer a conversion kit in time.
I Can't divulge too much information because I might patent the idea yet. It's not actually a new idea, it's a new application of an old idea.
Just a little silicone grease on the seals but avoid getting it on the contacts. I often use a cotton bud with grease on just one side and keep the dry side towards the contacts.Is there any grease application needed for a new bike to help keep the water out? Or not effective…
Err maybe there’s a lot more to it then that…Absolutely not, dielectric grease is an insulator.
You're not allowed to use it in aircraft.
Did you get the bottom of this issue my bike has just started doing this.Just an update on this. The bike shop fixed the not powering down issue. Now it has a new fault where intermittently when I power up the bike the display will fully illuminate both rows of lights and no motor assistance is available. It will stay like this until I pull the battery. So it's back in the bike shop.
It was a loose battery. When I tightened up the battery I didn't let it tighten until you hear the ratchet. That in combination with some water ingress around where the battery connects to the motor.Did you get the bottom of this issue my bike has just started doing this.
The issue with the giant controller design, is that they have mechanical load on thin transpatent plastic, in the assembly.The TCU on the Specialized Levo...also on the top tube like the Reign...........always caused water ingress issues unless properly protected. I do not know the design on the Reign, but on the Levo the TCU also had a USB port sealed with a rubber plug. If that rubber plug was not pushed home fully it provided easy access for water ingress. Secondly the TCU is constructed of an upper and lower section. The seam between the upper and lower section was not waterproof. Thirdly the TCU had a "tail" of wires connected in the back that then were connected to the controller and down to the connections on the motor. Those connections were not water tight.
On most if not all bike frames the connection of the top tube to the headtube is open, meaning any water getting into the headtube either from a bove or below ( below being wide open if you wash the bike with it upside down on the bars) can pass straight into the top tube.
Then there is a matter of how well the TCU ( Reign on/off/battery display) is sealed against the top tube.....not at all is my guess!. any water from directly a bove, like rain, will likely be kept out but any water hitting it sideways, like a hose when washing the bike, will not!!
Phew! So what is the answer? On my Levo I removed the TCU and completely wrapped it in amalgamating tape. I similarly wrapped the connectors coming from the TCU. I then used "liquid gasket" to create a seal between the TCU and the frame. ( If you apply a thin layer of grease on the top tube sruface first the liquid gasket will only adhere to the bottom of the TCU/Reign display so it can be removed when required). I also used frame protector to stick across the bottom of the headtube.
I never had any water related problems with those modifications.
Did you get a solution or determine what causes both rows of LEDs to be fully illuminated white with no power to motor and unable to switch off? I have the same issue start today but pulling battery does not solve it. The issue persists.Just an update on this. The bike shop fixed the not powering down issue. Now it has a new fault where intermittently when I power up the bike the display will fully illuminate both rows of lights and no motor assistance is available. It will stay like this until I pull the battery. So it's back in the bike shop.
Its giant....Did you get a solution or determine what causes both rows of LEDs to be fully illuminated white with no power to motor and unable to switch off? I have the same issue start today but pulling battery does not solve it. The issue persists.
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