Softsand
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Hows the weight difference - 2020 vs 2021 ?
Trance X E+ Pro 2021
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Hows the weight difference - 2020 vs 2021 ?
DLSFAN
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I haven’t weighed either one
Softsand
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Would be interested if you can. Heard a rumour the 2021 was a Kg or so heavier.
DLSFAN
Member
They’re similar. The 2021 feels faster DH even with switchbacks but the 2020 feels more playful.
DLSFAN
Member
- 2020 ground clearance is about 10 inches
- 2021 ground clearance is about 9 3/4 inches on The low setting
Hi DLSFAN
Tell us more about the size:
"The cockpit on the 2021 feels taller and slightly shorter"
I was hoping for longer feal on medium size with longer reach than 2020 Trance.
I am 175 cm high and have M on order. What do you think??
Thanks
DLSFAN
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Based on your height, it would be a medium or small. I’m 5’7” and I test road a medium before my purchase and opted for a small as the medium felt too big with the 29’s.
Thanks for that, than I stay with Medium.
The more I look at this bike the more I am considering getting one. My other option is going for the Levo Comp, but the specs on the Giant are better than what you get on the Levo. I have heard the Giant motors are not fond of the wet though? (Issues with water getting into the motor?)
Will be following this thread closely.
Will be following this thread closely.
I have check my Levo 2020 for ground clearance in High mode, it is some 27cm(10.62in).
Can you measure your bike in High mode for ground clearance once you flip it??
DLSFAN
Member
I rode it today in low and I don’t plan to flip it back.
aja07
Member
Difference between Hi and Lo is 10mm (almost 1/2") so based on 9 3/4" (as above) for Lo would make Hi approx 10 1/4" (10.25). Would seem the Trance motor is indeed quite low slung, though most people don't seem to have a problem with this. Guess it depends largely on the sort of terrain you might be riding in.
By comparison my analogue bike (Santa Cruz Hightower) has ground clearance of 10 1/4" to the chain ring guard. So all in all the Trance is not too bad.
By comparison my analogue bike (Santa Cruz Hightower) has ground clearance of 10 1/4" to the chain ring guard. So all in all the Trance is not too bad.
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TRNC-X-E aka Transexy is Longer and Taller. In this context it's all good.
This next bit is only my completely biased and unjustified opinion.
I think most folks around here with a 19 or 20 trance, ended up installing taller bars after a few months. The longer lower trend seems to have found it limit on the lower dimension for this demographic. Longer is good but some stack height for comfort was needed. I believe the 2019 trance was a little too low and this bikes corrects that error.
TRNC-X-E aka Transexy is Longer and Taller. In this context it's all good.
This next bit is only my completely biased and unjustified opinion.
I think most folks around here with a 19 or 20 trance, ended up installing taller bars after a few months. The longer lower trend seems to have found it limit on the lower dimension for this demographic. Longer is good but some stack height for comfort was needed. I believe the 2019 trance was a little too low and this bikes corrects that error.
Oddly enough, when I have had to use the bottom bracket of my 2019 trance as a hammer to hit stuff (this always occurs as a result of very bad judgments on my part) it takes it with aplomb.
But... rocks being kicked up, or flipped over by the front tire at high speeds (also a result of poor judgments), have actually busted the skid plate on two occasions.
I for one, am happy they added some extra thickness under this thing.
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It's not so much the motor being troubled by water (under normal wet weather riding use), as was trouble with the connectors getting wet. Connectors and the ridecontrol one unit soaking up water did cuase many here grief. Hopefully this is solved, both by design, and quality control.
DLSFAN
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Yes, the 2021 is definitely more comfortable than the 2020 for me due to it having more stack.
GrandPaBrogan
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Ah yes, I hear ya. Many of us here have had to forego our colour preference in exchange for some other benefit.I love this bike and I want to upgrade from my 2019 fathom e+2 pro but I don't like the colour!!! I like the colour of the Trance X E+2 pro much more, but I would prefer the components of the e+1
“Kermit the Frog” fluro green wasn’t a colour I’d ever see myself riding
but I had a plan - to take it to an auto vinyl wrap shop. Unlike paint, a vinyl wrap is easily removable and would also act as a scratch protector to a degree.Unfortunately, after a few months the colour green grew on me!
Middletown Cycing and Fitness in Middletown Ky just recieved there first size large, so they have landed in the midwest.
gbarfoot
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First ebike, looking at this vs commencal meta 29.....the ep8 motor has me waiting and I could get one of these quickly based on info from my LBS....any comments one which one.....the wait on the ep8 is killing me
SLX is fine, and an updated shifter would likely be all that is required to get XT performance. The derailleur will not last forever anyway. I consider derailleurs to be consumables.
The fork on the pro 2 looks to be about the same fork as on the 2019 trance pro 1 with the grip damper. If this is correct? then the fork is excellent, set and forget.
My experiance with the Dps shock is not as good. I was happy with the DPS performance but I killed the DPS unit on my pro1 --it coughed its guts out the rebound adjuster--and the fix was not inexpensive; $300 plus the service time. My second experience with a DPS shock, is not much better, as the setting lever is so loose, it kinda flops around, and I needed a zip-tie to hold it in the open position. The lever problems have been fixed with updates, but the fact that the shock gets too hot during serious use... maybe not. I opted to upgrade the dps shock on my pro1, to a Dpx2 unit and so far I am pleased.
A shock is not cheap, and here is where the conundrum sits I think.
DLSFAN
Member
I talked To a couple of shops that have experience and sell many motors and they both said that the Yamaha is by far the most reliable. The Trance also has pretty high end Components.
gbarfoot
Active member
Yep those were 2 of my deciding factors, new large battery, yamaha reliability, and high spec components for the price. Lbs has 1 of each size, I just put a deposit down and hopefully pick it up on Friday.
I realize it's a bit heavy, the long chainstay seems to equate to a less lively feel especially in the smaller sizes (I got a small), also the low BB clearance could be an issue here in the Colorado rocks......but I bet it will still be a blast to ride for a long time and I won't spend the next 5 months waiting
I realize it's a bit heavy, the long chainstay seems to equate to a less lively feel especially in the smaller sizes (I got a small), also the low BB clearance could be an issue here in the Colorado rocks......but I bet it will still be a blast to ride for a long time and I won't spend the next 5 months waiting
DLSFAN
Member
It’s a second guard. Take it off and there’s another guard.
This is a very convincing bike (META)! One could say, an even better spec, at a lower price.
Similar geometry, until you get to the chainstay (gulp), but no token.
Both are painted up in Lincoln lawyer understated elegance?.
These two (TRANSexy V META)would make an awesomely fun head to head.
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