SRAM motor?

[Picard12]

Does SRAM use brose motor?

Is it reliable?

Is there any mechanical breakdown in first year?

 

[whitymon]

Yes
Yes, better that the first gen, bigger belt now
I do not understand.

Major issue of the brose mag s is their design is pretty bad against water, but you can find some special washer to use to prevent it.

FYI, new brose motor is coming pretty soon and do not use anymore any belt etc. All is new, nothing is backward compatible.

Will Sram use this one for the new version, no one knows yet.

 

[Dfriz]

I have the SRAM in my new GASGAS ECC6 works great so far

 

[whitymon]

Each time I see the gas gas I am in between feeling, awkward and so stylish

The leather or fake leather is really funny, you feel they wanted to build a motorbike.

 

[Picard12]

Gas gas brand looks weird. It looks like a 1950 motorcycle

 

[jsommers]

Does SRAM use brose motor?

Is it reliable?

Is there any mechanical breakdown in first year?

Ive been into 2 shops that sold bikes with a SRAM motor. At both shops i knew the employees.. i got around to asking "so can i give a bike with this new.motor a spin?"
Shop 1- " errrr, um no... sorry... its broken"
Me-" its broken? How long did that take!?"
Them- " we built the bike, the motor crapped out on a test ride in the parking lot, it's getting warrantied"
Shop #2
Me- " anybody tried out that SRAM motor yet??"
Bike shop- " all the mechanics sheepishly look at each other"
Me- " not so great???"
Them- " its getting warrantied "
Thats the only real world feed back ive got...

 

[Picard12]

Ive been into 2 shops that sold bikes with a SRAM motor. At both shops i knew the employees.. i got around to asking "so can i give a bike with this new.motor a spin?"
Shop 1- " errrr, um no... sorry... its broken"
Me-" its broken? How long did that take!?"
Them- " we built the bike, the motor crapped out on a test ride in the parking lot, it's getting warrantied"
Shop #2
Me- " anybody tried out that SRAM motor yet??"
Bike shop- " all the mechanics sheepishly look at each other"
Me- " not so great???"
Them- " its getting warrantied "
Thats the only real world feed back ive got...

Thanks for the feedback

 

[Dfriz]

I guess that's why you have a warranty on new stuff

 

[motoadve]

I have the Transition Repeater PT with SRAM motor, its amazing, better than the Brosch on my Turbo Levo.
For tech climbs it gives you an extra push , which makes a big difference between making or not making the obstacle, its quieter too.
Pretty happy with it.

 

[steve_sordy]

I guess that's why you have a warranty on new stuff

Yes, I agree. But I would rather not have to use it.

 

[whitymon]

I have the Transition Repeater PT with SRAM motor, its amazing, better than the Brosch on my Turbo Levo.
For tech climbs it gives you an extra push , which makes a big difference between making or not making the obstacle, its quieter too.
Pretty happy with it.

Just for my understanding, the SRAM is a Brose Mag S which is the same as the specialized 2.2 no? Firmware might varies that said, especially with SRAM. Maybe the 2.1 was a bit different I do not recall.

 

[motoadve]

Just for my understanding, the SRAM is a Brose Mag S which is the same as the specialized 2.2 no? Firmware might varies that said, especially with SRAM. Maybe the 2.1 was a bit different I do not recall.

I also have the Turbo Levo with Brose motor, 2.2 , has the same amount of power as the SRAM , but with the SRAM you get extra push for a few more seconds when you stop pedaling, which dramatically helps on technical climbs, there is a pretty technical climb that with the Turbo Levo I need to get off the bike 5 times on steep roots or rocks I cannot make, on the very first ride on the Transition I only had to get off the bike once, and this has been repeatedly the case on techy climbs, for the rest is the same, just quieter.

 

[Janisj]

I also have the Turbo Levo with Brose motor, 2.2 , has the same amount of power as the SRAM , but with the SRAM you get extra push for a few more seconds when you stop pedaling, which dramatically helps on technical climbs, there is a pretty technical climb that with the Turbo Levo I need to get off the bike 5 times on steep roots or rocks I cannot make, on the very first ride on the Transition I only had to get off the bike once, and this has been repeatedly the case on techy climbs, for the rest is the same, just quieter.

If these 2 Seconds instead of stopping are pushing you out of the trail down in the Cliff, you are dead.

 

[steve_sordy]

If these 2 Seconds instead of stopping are pushing you out of the trail down in the Cliff, you are dead.

Agree with that.
In 2018, I was test riding a Moustache Samedi, before I owned an emtb. I can't remember what motor it had, but I clearly remember stopping at the top of a steep drop to see if there was anyone there before I dropped in. I said "stopping", what I should have said was "tried to stop". It felt like I had been shoved when I wasn't ready for it and it was nearly a bad fall.

I believe that the 2 second push can be stopped by a backpedal. It will be one of those things that you learn to do and in time it will become completely natural.

 

[whitymon]

But when you want to stop you hit the brake no? I think I am always hitting the brake no matter what I do because if I do not pedal the bike have still momentum even on steep climb unless you are really really slow and with maxgrip.

 

[steve_sordy]

But when you want to stop you hit the brake no? I think I am always hitting the brake no matter what I do because if I do not pedal the bike have still momentum even on steep climb unless you are really really slow and with maxgrip.

I agree, I would have had the brake lightly applied to hold me there, but not full on! An unexpected shove may overwhelm the application.

Thinking back some more about my experience with the Moustache Samedi. It was almost definitely not an extended boost (in 2018), but my inadvertent pressure on the forward pedal that triggered the surge. I was a total newbie to e-bikes and had no idea what to look for and what not to do. I didn't even know about "walk" mode and got stuck at the bottom of a railway embankment with a heavy bike and a slippy surface to ascend. That was a tough one to get out of.

 

[whitymon]

Hmm this seems a bit different that remaining boost after pedal, If you break, stop the bike and then by error apply pressure too much on the pedal, the motor could engage.

Is it what you felt @steve_sordy ?

 

[steve_sordy]

Hmm this seems a bit different that remaining boost after pedal, If you break, stop the bike and then by error apply pressure too much on the pedal, the motor could engage.

Is it what you felt @steve_sordy ?

After thinking about it, I'm sure it was.

 

[whitymon]

Ahah then, I will relate when it will happen to me, only a matter of time, especially on full power emtb.

 

[DNE87]

Have had a nukeproof megawatt carbon with the sram motor for just over a year now, it’s been absolutely flawless, motor hasn’t missed a beat

 

[webman]

But when you want to stop you hit the brake no? I think I am always hitting the brake no matter what I do because if I do not pedal the bike have still momentum even on steep climb unless you are really really slow and with maxgrip.

It’s called overrun and most modern motors have it. Some configurable, some not. It’s a GREAT feature for technical climbs and you get used to it pretty quickly. It’s very manageable and I never had the feeling of getting pushed to hard.