@Rob Hancill that is the killer feature for me. I’ve just posted on my clubs FB group and not one neg comment2 bolts to drop the motor. takes about 20 mins.
Can then fly with your bike and take 2 x 160Wh range extenders in hand luggage.
@Rob Hancill that is the killer feature for me. I’ve just posted on my clubs FB group and not one neg comment2 bolts to drop the motor. takes about 20 mins.
Can then fly with your bike and take 2 x 160Wh range extenders in hand luggage.
ROB could we get a video of you dead lifting the bike please? 10 reps, over the head...
In 10 years would be worth around $1.000, if not used of course.I have ordered and paid for the new limited edition Turbo Levo SL S-Works, as they are only making 250 of them. At $26500 Au, I consider it an investment and it will be locked in the vault at the bank, and viewed once a month on a Saturday, by appointment.
"Drop" I get ya.I decided to keep the 2020 Levo Comp I got just last week despite it still being in the return window. I'm 190cm tall and 100kg (large build) naked weight. There is a lot of wind resistance and weight for my bike to carry, I think the Levo with bigger motor and 700 Watt hour battery is more suited. I can also drop my weight down to 96kg to make up the difference
Two things;The truth is, riding the Rail in ECO is a chore...
I'm torn!!
I've been riding Stumpjumper's for the last 10+ years, and still have an Expert.
I have some trails that I cycle round, that I just don't have the legs for... and thought an EMTB would be the answer. I spent months of researching, and eventually opted for a Trek Rail 9.9. The Levo was a close second, but the component spec of the Rail 9.9 v's the Levo S-Works sold me. I also got a decent discount which I couldn't get on the Levo.
I've now had the bike for 2 weeks - and have been having a ball on it. I already feel like I've gone against all of my own wishes, because I've been riding mainly in EMTB mode. My intention was to ride in ECO all of the time, and still get the exercise I want - but get a little bit of a boost when needed. The truth is, riding the Rail in ECO is a chore... and feels tougher than riding my Stumpy! EMTB means I can climb things I'd never have attempted before... and I get a work out in different ways.
What I originally wanted was something that I could ride as normal, but then get a wee boost on the technical uphills when my legs run out.
I think if the Levo SL had been available 4 weeks ago, then it would probably be the one I'd have bought. I'm a great one for buying something, and then wishing I'd bought something else - which is why I spent months pondering over what to buy!!
I'm only half way into my "30 day satisfaction" period with the Rail, and can swap it for something else. Now I've tasted EMTB power, I'm afraid that the SL wouldn't offer enough - despite it being what I originally wanted.
Part of me feels that I'm happy with what I have, and to stick with it. The other part thinks the Levo SL is what I originally wanted - and that I have this 2 week "exchange" window that I could make use of.
Any advice?!
nice bike and some very good engineering ideas, IP rated motor, waterproof plugs constant battery connection. All sounds like the problems we have been having have been addressed.
Well it doesn't make me very happy, while the spesh engineers have been beavering away on the sl it looks like all the levo and kenevo owners have been a bit "overlooked" what about fixing our crappy power cables, what about fixing our TCU's that fill up with water if you sneeze on them, what about some quality control on the motors that have to get replaced, some guys have had up to five motor replacements in a bike thats not even a year old WTF!!
between my wife and I we have spent around £30k on spesh ebikes, how about a bit of reengineering to fix our problems!!
I wasn't aware if this rule. 300Wh max or 2x160Wh.2 bolts to drop the motor. takes about 20 mins.
Can then fly with your bike and take 2 x 160Wh range extenders in hand luggage.
I think it’s country dependent. So Europe the Max is 160wh (ive not checked)I wasn't aware if this rule. 300Wh max or 2x160Wh.
Lithium batteries with more than 100 watt hours
That makes me think, should they have made the battery pack 300Wh rather than 320? Using a 3400mAh battery we get 318,2Wh. Using a 3200mAh cell we get 299,5Wh. And the actual difference in capacity may be less than it sounds. A 3200mAh can be made with lower internal resistance, so you will have less energy wasted as heat. This can make a difference when riding at high assistance in low-ish outside temperatures, and when the battery is runing low. So, at most a minor sacrifice of range to have an airplane legal emtb!?
Did they address this at the event @Rob Hancill?
It seems you're right. I assumed the European flight safety rules reflected the US rules. But in EU there is no 300Wh rule, only 160Wh x2. Still, they were pretty close to making an emtb that could be brought on planes in the US.I think it’s country dependent. So Europe the Max is 160wh (ive not checked)
Perm. total weight 130 kganyone know if there is a rider weight limit? asking for a friend (me)
I would keep what you have if you enjoy the fast speeds. Once my wife and I tasted the Turbo 2 years ago we haven't looked back and just laugh about the thought of using lower support levels unless you need to extend the range. The extra weight isn't all bad. It makes the bike feel more stable in the high speed/nasty sections.I'm torn!!
I've been riding Stumpjumper's for the last 10+ years, and still have an Expert.
I have some trails that I cycle round, that I just don't have the legs for... and thought an EMTB would be the answer. I spent months of researching, and eventually opted for a Trek Rail 9.9. The Levo was a close second, but the component spec of the Rail 9.9 v's the Levo S-Works sold me. I also got a decent discount which I couldn't get on the Levo.
I've now had the bike for 2 weeks - and have been having a ball on it. I already feel like I've gone against all of my own wishes, because I've been riding mainly in EMTB mode. My intention was to ride in ECO all of the time, and still get the exercise I want - but get a little bit of a boost when needed. The truth is, riding the Rail in ECO is a chore... and feels tougher than riding my Stumpy! EMTB means I can climb things I'd never have attempted before... and I get a work out in different ways.
What I originally wanted was something that I could ride as normal, but then get a wee boost on the technical uphills when my legs run out.
I think if the Levo SL had been available 4 weeks ago, then it would probably be the one I'd have bought. I'm a great one for buying something, and then wishing I'd bought something else - which is why I spent months pondering over what to buy!!
I'm only half way into my "30 day satisfaction" period with the Rail, and can swap it for something else. Now I've tasted EMTB power, I'm afraid that the SL wouldn't offer enough - despite it being what I originally wanted.
Part of me feels that I'm happy with what I have, and to stick with it. The other part thinks the Levo SL is what I originally wanted - and that I have this 2 week "exchange" window that I could make use of.
Any advice?!
Two things;
1. Stop being so lazy. ?
2. Ride a short distance with the assist off, then switch over to Eco, makes the assist seem more assisty.
The mid range stumpys and up get a fox 36 and dpx2 ....i guess maybe trying to save weight but stillI have a 19 Stumpjumper carbon !
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