Levo Gen 3 Specialized Gen 3 2022 Levo Megathread!

[thewanted]

Some clips on the Levo from today:

Awesome stuff! Is that a 2022 Pro model?

 

[Ou812]

It could be either a 2022 or a 2023, I have a 22 and my mate has a 23. They’re the exact same bike. The Pro hasn’t had any updates yet.

 

[head]

It could be either a 2022 or a 2023, I have a 22 and my mate has a 23. They’re the exact same bike. The Pro hasn’t had any updates yet.

How is your mate's bike a 2023 model when it is exactly the same as the 2022 model?

 

[Ou812]

How is your's mate bike a 2023 model when it is exactly the same as 2022?

Because Spesh didn’t make any changes to the Pro and released the same bike as a 2023. Probably did because they had a warehouse full of pros leftover The Pro is the only model that hasn’t had any minor updates yet. All the other models had colour and slight spec updates. The 2023 expert is offered in new colours, the X2 is now the elite version and it has GX AXS. It’s probably the model I would buy if I were buying new.

 

[head]

Yeah, my point was that Pro is still a 2022 model, even if it is being sold now.

Even specialized says it's a 2022 model: Product Compare | Specialized.com

 

[thewanted]

Because Spesh didn’t make any changes to the Pro and released the same bike as a 2023. Probably did because they had a warehouse full of pros leftover The Pro is the only model that hasn’t had any minor updates yet. All the other models had colour and slight spec updates. The 2023 expert is offered in new colours, the X2 is now the elite version and it has GX AXS. It’s probably the model I would buy if I were buying new.

Looks like the 2023 Levo Expert hasn't hit the UK site yet (it's on the US one), not that I want to really spend £10k on it

 

[Ou812]

Looks like the 2023 Levo Expert hasn't hit the UK site yet (it's on the US one), not that I want to really spend £10k on it

You can pick up the 22 expert for £8k, maybe even less if you shop around. IMO, the 2023 updates aren’t worth the extra £2k. If I were doing it all over again I would buy the comp carbon and upgrade it. I’ve swapped so much stuff off my bike that there’s not much of “Pro” left.

 

[Janisj]

I found one easy way to simulate this "disengage motor click". I turned my bike on the saddle/stirring bar, then switch on the bike, then press "walk assist" button. The motor starts turning the wheel, all so far fine. After button release the motor switches off and generates this "click". If the bike is Off, i did not manage to generate this "click". By regular pedaling i have ca. 0,5sec long overrun with the "click" just after.

 

[beutelfuchs]

Go ride it. The engine will break soon enough and, so god wants, the next one will have an issue you feel more comfortable with

 

[pontoon]

Does the gen3 levo use a standard or grunion shock mount? I’m trying to choose the right fox factory x2 shock part number to match a cascade long travel link

 

[Ou812]

Does the gen3 levo use a standard or grunion shock mount? I’m trying to choose the right fox factory x2 shock part number to match a cascade long travel link

It’s the standard mount

 

[ScottWest]

Strange noise from the motor. Any ideas what would cause this? Its not drive train, it only happens when the motor on.
In the video the sounds is like a "tick tick tick, but in person its a deep gravely click click sound.

Levo Motor Rattle

 

[DS.]

Just had two gen2 motors change with same noise one bike got really bad in the end and was starting to slow down and the noise got louder

 

[brentonb]

Okay team

levo comp alloy
My shop told me to run 27 front 29 rear psi as you run higher pressures on ebikes.
It feels terrible to the 23 f 25 r on my enduro.

is this the right pressures??

help please

 

[brigcampbell]

Okay team

levo comp alloy
My shop told me to run 27 front 29 rear psi as you run higher pressures on ebikes.
It feels terrible to the 23 f 25 r on my enduro.

is this the right pressures??

help please

Comp alloy guy here.

I run about 28-30 and I'm about 200lbs all loaded up.

I also run about 255psi on the shock.

Works for me.

 

[Deleted member 7401]

SRAM | AXS

axs.sram.com

This works pretty well.

 

[Chicane]

Okay team

levo comp alloy
My shop told me to run 27 front 29 rear psi as you run higher pressures on ebikes.
It feels terrible to the 23 f 25 r on my enduro.

is this the right pressures??

help please

My riding weight is about 190lbs. 22.5 front, 27.5 rear with stock alloy wheels/tires on Expert.

 

[ebikerider]

Okay team

levo comp alloy
My shop told me to run 27 front 29 rear psi as you run higher pressures on ebikes.
It feels terrible to the 23 f 25 r on my enduro.

is this the right pressures??

help please

Don't be afraid to experiment mate. Depends on your tyre casing, if you run an insert/s, your terrain and how how fast you are etc. You could get away with 23/25 with sturdy tyres and an insert if you can pick lines well.

 

[Dave_B]

I run 19psi front and 21psi rear.
I’m 85kg kitted up.
Tyres are Schwalbe Magic Mary Super Trail 2.6 front and Big Betty super Trail 2.6 rear.

 

[Janisj]

I made few videos demonstrating this Clack noise.
The first using walk assist:

- YouTube

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The second with a bike switched off, just by moving spider forward/back

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@Bearing Man:
what is your expert opinion, will the motor die soon?

 

[Moe Ped]

New wheels for my gen3

We Are One Announces New Convergence Carbon Rims & Wheels - Pinkbike

The rims are said to be 32% stronger than We Are One's own Union 29 rims.

www.pinkbike.com

 

[etoni]

coil charged, front marzocchi Z1 170, rear Öhlins ttx22. 178cm S3, perfect.

 

[Chicane]

New wheels for my gen3

We Are One Announces New Convergence Carbon Rims & Wheels - Pinkbike

The rims are said to be 32% stronger than We Are One's own Union 29 rims.

www.pinkbike.com

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These will be my next wheels/350 hubs once I upgrade from the alloy Roval on my Expert.

 

[brentonb]

Decided to try 25 / 27 psi and was better but still not awesome, also think the stock tires are not the nicest.
I feel like I am a beginner rider again, this emtb thing takes a bit of learning to get used to.

I was finding I was always in the wrong gear and then was making sure I was always in the right gear and I was changing gears a lot more than on my normal enduro.

But had a great ride, 43kms and 1150m of elevation

here is a pic,

 

[brigcampbell]

I was changing gears a lot more than on my normal enduro.

Yes, this is normal. The focus on a constant, relatively high, cadence is important to motor life expectancy.

 

[Cb750stu]

Yes, this is normal. The focus on a constant, relatively high, cadence is important to motor life expectancy.

So the faster you pedal the longer the motor will last ??

 

[brigcampbell]

So the faster you pedal the longer the motor will last ??

Yes

I think Spesh recommends 80+ as ideal

 

[brigcampbell]

 

[Bearing Man]

I made few videos demonstrating this Clack noise.
The first using walk assist:

- YouTube

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The second with a bike switched off, just by moving spider forward/back

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@Bearing Man:
what is your expert opinion, will the motor die soon?

This just sounds like the sprag clutch bearings doing their thing to me.

 

[Bearing Man]

Yes

I think Spesh recommends 80+ as ideal

High cadence is only recommended for fitness benefit as shown in the video you posted. It makes little difference to motor longevity if you are pedaling fast or slow.
Due to the way that the power is delivered, the motor will run a little more efficiently at high cadence as most torque is produced at very low cadence. This is why this motor feels so strong as you first set off, but can feel a little weak when you are spinning out up hill.