shimano steps e8000 derestriction
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is it safe to use with the new 2019 e8000 ? that has the new update ?
Only the firmware has changed and all of the E8000's can be updated to the latest firmware.
stepsunlocker works with all of them.
The 2019 is the same as other e8000 motors, but last time I checked it was compatible with the latest firmware ?
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Would I reset it back to original settings when I put the bike in for repair ?
If you've upgraded the firmware at any point. No, you don't need to change that, you can leave it as the upgraded firmware. Generally Shimano want you to keep the firmware upto date (use e-tube app). The updates fixe any problems and generally makes the bike smoother and more efficient as they tweak settings.
If you've been naughty and changed anything, like the EU speed restriction to US 32kph speed restriction, which obviously you wouldn't do .. but if you did, by accident for instance, then yes, you'd want to change it back before you take the bike back to the shop.
You can also change things like "peak motor power" with steps uplocker, I think you can up it to 600w from 500w ... Don't ! someone on here did and it just fried their motor.
If you've been naughty and changed anything, like the EU speed restriction to US 32kph speed restriction, which obviously you wouldn't do .. but if you did, by accident for instance, then yes, you'd want to change it back before you take the bike back to the shop.
You can also change things like "peak motor power" with steps uplocker, I think you can up it to 600w from 500w ... Don't ! someone on here did and it just fried their motor.
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Download the app bud, it’s fairly straightforward and has instructions.
Good question. The E8000 does have a "black box" where it logs a history of codes. I started to try and decode these one day but went for a ride instead !
Most of them are error codes, but it logs some other data. For the "speed" change, you're not actually changing the speed or editing the limit. You're actually only changing the location from EU to USA and the main part of that change is that the firmware allows a higher speed limit if you're in the USA. So if it does record any changes to the geographical location setting .... I've no idea ... but if it does, and you were pulled up on it, who's to say you didn't take the bike on holiday with you to the US (without it's battery, and hired one there) and changed it whilst you were away - which presumably would be completely legal ?
I'm not suggesting you should change it, or that you'll be fine if you do change it, because who knows, they might log it and it might cause you warranty issues down the line.
Good question. The E8000 does have a "black box" where it logs a history of codes. I started to try and decode these one day but went for a ride instead !
For the "speed" change, you're not actually changing the speed or editing the limit. You're actually only changing the location from EU to USA and the main part of that change is that the firmware allows a higher speed limit if you're in the USA. So if it does record any changes to the geographical location setting .... I've no idea ... but if it does, and you were pulled up on it, who's to say you didn't take the bike on holiday with you to the US (without it's battery, and hired one there) and changed it whilst you were away - which presumably would be completely legal ?
I'm not suggesting you should change it, or that you'll be fine if you do change it, because who knows, they might log it and it might cause you warranty issues down the line.
They could presumably still argue that the change broke their T&C.
The black box records max speed and if this is max speed with assistance it would give the game away.
They could. Anyone who makes any changes should be aware that there is a risk.
From what I remember the max speed recorded in the data is just the max speed the bike has been, which for most people will be higher than the maximum assistance speed.
I've heard that elsewhere too but I can't think of a reason they would record that.
I guess when you're sitting there developing it and you set it up to keep track of distance and speed, if you're going to record how far it's been, you might as well log the other field too.
I'm sure some time in the not too distant future someone will access the software to read the blackbox info and it will be public knowledge of what's actually recorded.
joppie
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I tried badass 4 and speed-box with not much success at all . Keep showing faults codes and got worse , my fault for up dating sort wire before I understood why not to .
So I tried the steps Unlocker app on my iPhone. And worked straight away so simple. I changed The market value to US altered my wheel size by 40% change Speedo to km,
Motor stays in gauged to 30 mile an hour checked with garmin device ,
So happy boy now well please for the right money
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Good question. The E8000 does have a "black box" where it logs a history of codes. I started to try and decode these one day but went for a ride instead !
For the "speed" change, you're not actually changing the speed or editing the limit. You're actually only changing the location from EU to USA and the main part of that change is that the firmware allows a higher speed limit if you're in the USA. So if it does record any changes to the geographical location setting .... I've no idea ... but if it does, and you were pulled up on it, who's to say you didn't take the bike on holiday with you to the US (without it's battery, and hired one there) and changed it whilst you were away - which presumably would be completely legal ?
I'm not suggesting you should change it, or that you'll be fine if you do change it, because who knows, they might log it and it might cause you warranty issues down the line.
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Iv been trying to connect the unlocker my bike but it won’t connect neither will e tube, I don’t know what firmware is on my bike so I don’t know if iv got the update that stops deristriction iv just recently bought my bike with the e8000 motor.dont know if it comes with that update ?
It shouldn't matter what firmware you have, it should work.
Are you using Stepsunlocker for Android or iOS ?
Is your bluetooth turned on on the phone ??
Are you using Stepsunlocker for Android or iOS ?
Is your bluetooth turned on on the phone ??
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i have connected now i have an i phone6
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my firmware is 4.4.5 / 4.0.7 does this mean the badass box will work ?
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my firmware is 445 / 407 would the badass box be compatible ?
joppie
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Yes I think so , but check with badass
I just checked the black box on my E8000 using Stepsunlocker, my top recorded speed is 54.5kph-33.8mph, even though I've dabbed a bit in changing the wheel circumference I know for a fact I didn't hit that speed under assistance.
I can't see how this would give anyone justification to void a warranty.
raine
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TBH Realistically it probably won't be a problem.
But there's a bunch of people on the Internet who always want 100% "hold my hand" security that an obvious modification is risk free, when the reality is that if you mod something, you take that risk - otherwise just leave it stock.
Always handy to properly assess any risk you are taking with as much info as possible.
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