Santa Cruz Ebike
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So all the reviews are in one place:
Santa Cruz Heckler 2020 announced – the American brand's eMTB debut | E-MOUNTAINBIKE Magazine
Santa Cruz Heckler 2020 announced – the American brand's eMTB debut | E-MOUNTAINBIKE Magazine
I recently bought a new car for where I work and it was cheaper than the base Heckler R-Kit. it's a good car with a 4 star safety rating (even has autonomous emergency braking....).
Whilst I like how the bike looks, the Norco Sight VLT is significantly cheaper ($4850 cheaper or 62% of the cost in Australia), is carbon and has the same motor.
Meh.
Whilst I like how the bike looks, the Norco Sight VLT is significantly cheaper ($4850 cheaper or 62% of the cost in Australia), is carbon and has the same motor.
Meh.
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Robin Grant
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At least 2 years late to the party, no new tech and it starts at 6k 
Looks alright though
Looks alright though
Robin Grant
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BikeRadar's article (with UK pricing): Santa Cruz has finally launched an e-bike and it’s rad (and expensive)
@Rob Hancill have you or are you planning on testing this?
I asked them but got a generic ‘if we ever make an ebike we will let you know’ kinda response.
I’ll be totally honest though, it doesn’t look like there much there that’s moving the industry forward. Probably a solid bike but the E8000 is almost 4 years old now.
Still, id like to give it a go.
I'd agree with this
rode a 2020 levo this week and a 2020 Trek (Rail?) with the new Bosch a few weeks ago and just didn't like the un natural unconnected feeling both of those motors produced compared to my shitey old E8000s... it's just a shame each and every one has bearing play after a few weeks of riding
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Robin Grant
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Pedal & Spoke are getting them in today - although only in Large & Medium initially:
Cheers - Will see if I can wait out for the XL!
Why do you think shimano is keeping their 8000 motor???
Do they plan to withhold the evolution of the sport?
Do they not like profit?
I have found it to be such a perfect simulation of what would be my own legs with unbelievable juice.
I found the fact that they develop a product that will stand up to the competition for four years as a show of respect for the customer.
Do they plan to withhold the evolution of the sport?
Do they not like profit?
I have found it to be such a perfect simulation of what would be my own legs with unbelievable juice.
I found the fact that they develop a product that will stand up to the competition for four years as a show of respect for the customer.
Surely you mean 4 weeks?
Doesn’t push any boundaries I spose, but it hits a pretty sweet spot for ebikes. It’s a good formula. I mean acceptable range with an eye to overall weight. Popular and capable motor system. Enough power for the intended use, I don’t hear many people screaming for TQ motors in everything. Proper tyres for the job! Given that we’re not all convinced by the SL from where most of us are now I reckon SC are bang on. I am starting to think that my habit of early adoption may not result in early obsolescence for once.
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It's more of an E-Bronson really... definitely not a bad thing. Hecklers were awful bikes. It'd have been far too tempting to not call SantaCruz's first Eeb after the "Heckler" with all the butthurt it'll create in the US
Bronson's much loved as they are are underwealmingly average (by today's standards) not necessarily a criticism though. But a good trail bike should be really seeing as it's just the current re-name of your standard ATB/mtb (80s/90s), all-mountain (00s)... Excluding racing TBF they're all just XC bikes ie. a bike for going up or down but not particularly excelling in either.
Should be a decent trail bike, Has good trail geometry, should have good kinematics and is very good weight for an E8000 with internal battery.
It's a meh from me... but should tick a load of boxes for plenty folk... I see this as a pretty valid alternative to the 2019/20 carbon Levos (not SL)
Bronson's much loved as they are are underwealmingly average (by today's standards) not necessarily a criticism though. But a good trail bike should be really seeing as it's just the current re-name of your standard ATB/mtb (80s/90s), all-mountain (00s)... Excluding racing TBF they're all just XC bikes ie. a bike for going up or down but not particularly excelling in either.
Should be a decent trail bike, Has good trail geometry, should have good kinematics and is very good weight for an E8000 with internal battery.
It's a meh from me... but should tick a load of boxes for plenty folk... I see this as a pretty valid alternative to the 2019/20 carbon Levos (not SL)
I was part of the development team on this bike, and I can tell you - the main , OK, ONLY objective was to make a bike which @Gary would like ..
So what did we do .. 27.5 .. not only just 27.5 .. but no option to change it either. We even said, ok, 2.6 tyres too .. he hates 2.8.
We had a huge freekin party that night and the rest of the bike was pretty easy to make.
And what do we get ? "MEH" .. frak, what does it take !
2.4s you dumb stoners
Lol, bit harsh.
miPbiP
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Seems like a safe bet for someone wanting a heavy trail/enduro EMTB. It's not for XC or all day epics.
Nothing wrong with not being bleeding edge if it does the job.
Probably competes with Canyon Spectral:ON and YT Decoy. Santa Cruz have plenty of fanbois in the UK, they'll be wanting the carbon and the name on the frame.
I think it'll sell OK despite not breaking new ground. I quite like the yellow.
The 500Wh battery on my Levo is plenty for me - by the time it's flat, I am too!
Nothing wrong with not being bleeding edge if it does the job.
Probably competes with Canyon Spectral:ON and YT Decoy. Santa Cruz have plenty of fanbois in the UK, they'll be wanting the carbon and the name on the frame.
I think it'll sell OK despite not breaking new ground. I quite like the yellow.
The 500Wh battery on my Levo is plenty for me - by the time it's flat, I am too!
Only just got that one... I'll get me coat!
Yep, I think @miPbiP you are bang on there. The reality is that a tiny company like Santa Cruz can't hope to be on the bleeding edge of ebike development - developing your own powertrain with a partner a la Spec costs way too much and is far too risky.
At this point they just need a solid "me too" product that gets them a slice of the pie, and for that the current E8000 (bearing wear for hard riders accepted) is fine. Remember Shimano are also the only manufacturer to currently make multiple motors within the same form factor; if the upcoming E9000 follows that path that will make Shimano a very sensible choice for Santa Cruz who can update their MY2021 bikes with the new motor without any additional costs.
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I don’t know how you destroy them so quickly. Even Bernard Kerr’s e8000 has lasted him well over a year ?
Feel the peace man ...
Ok, going off Cruz topic for a second .. I notice Adam Brayton runs DHF (DH front DD rear) - was 27.5 front and rear before some low lifes nicked that one and now runs a 29 on the front. They're 2.5's ..
Would you say that's really just the same as your argument for 2.4's as Minions are under sized ?
Stoners out .
(PS .. I did drop from a 2.8 front to a 2.6 front .. and yes .. maybe .. it is better ..
)liv2ryd
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If SC released this bike 2 years ago, it would have made some waves. IMO they missed the boat with 27.5 wheels and dated motor/battery combo. Hell, my 2019 Tazer tics more boxes than this new sled. SC, I suggest you go back to the drawing board and try again.
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