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Cracking bike, but 101kg payload puts it out of my league.
just going to qualify my comment by saying that’s compared to my E8000 motor, haven’t spent enough time on a FF EP8 to make a comparison.I have only spent a small amount of time on the Rise, but having done so I wouldn't say you need to up the power on it - its not like a Levo SL where the power drop is very noticeable from a FF EMTB, in fact I was hard pressed when riding it in trail mode to tell it had less power.
just going to qualify my comment by saying that’s compared to my E8000 motor, haven’t spent enough time on a FF EP8 to make a comparison.
Another totally unscientific or credible comparison I am making in my own head is with the Bosch Gen 4 motor. I ride most of the time now in Tour mode, switching to EMTB on the climbs. Rarely use Turbo unless I’m having a blast without the range anxiety kicking in
EMTB is meant to be a variable amount between 120-340% assistance. I presume 340% assistance is 85Nm of torque, which is the same as Turbo mode. Even when I’m really pedalling the bike up hill in EMTB mode with a high cadence, sweating like a pig, I am not convinced I get anywhere near 340% assistance. If I switch to Turbo mode life just becomes so much easier
So, in conclusion to my non scientific reasoning, I think I use around 70% of the torque in EMTB mode, which would be around 59.5Nm. The Rise has 60Nm. I’m guessing the Rise (in Boost) will feel like EMTB being pushed hard. I just won’t have Turbo mode to play with
there very few comparisons surprisingly, Robs done a couple, 60nm of Bosch for example would seems more powerful than 60nm of Shimano motors, that reported torque isn’t as straight forward as it seems. Rob also did a Bafang 95nm vs Bosch 85nm and Bosch was way more powerful at getting up steep climbs. My also very unscientific guess was the Shimano might be nearer 52nm of Bosch equivalent, but who cares? Does it get a fat ass up a steep climb, yes it does! Does it require more cadence (something to be aware of) to earn that assist, yes that’s true also! Does it get you fitter and also play better dh, looks like it does that too .
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When I first had the Bosch powered bike I was using Turbo all the time. It was such a novelty and so much fun. Now that I have my biking legs back and getting fitter (and losing weight) range has become the most important factor as we just want to be in the saddle for as long as possible, so I use the lower modes (still not Eco though, just don’t get that oomph with Eco). With the range extender I reckon I’ll be going further and faster on the Rise than I would be on the full fat
Also, it should be easier to pedal at higher speeds without the motor assist, I’m beginning to find the full fat a bit limited above around 18mph. I can push it on a trail to 20-22mph but it’s difficult to sustain that speed. Hopefully the Rise will be the answer, who knows. It’s an expensive gamble but sod it, YOLO and all that …
When I first had the Bosch powered bike I was using Turbo all the time. It was such a novelty and so much fun. Now that I have my biking legs back and getting fitter (and losing weight) range has become the most important factor as we just want to be in the saddle for as long as possible, so I use the lower modes (still not Eco though, just don’t get that oomph with Eco). With the range extender I reckon I’ll be going further and faster on the Rise than I would be on the full fat
Also, it should be easier to pedal at higher speeds without the motor assist, I’m beginning to find the full fat a bit limited above around 18mph. I can push it on a trail to 20-22mph but it’s difficult to sustain that speed. Hopefully the Rise will be the answer, who knows. It’s an expensive gamble but sod it, YOLO and all that …
With the Rise being lighter and less power than my full fat i find i can happily ride with less assist (sometimes i even hsve it off) and i dont feel the 15.5mph limit like you do on a full fat, if you want fast stick with a full fat, if you want fun go with a lightweight. Interestingly i road both bikes on a 10 mile course in trail/tour mode back to back and there was only 60 seconds in it, the full fat derestricted in tour mode did it 3 mins faster
Do you know of these are being brought to the uk?Cracking bike, but 101kg payload puts it out of my league.
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Has anyone tested to change the power to 85 Nm on the Orbea Rise yet? Planning on getting a Rise. If its possible to change it to 85 Nm I will 100% get one
Best regards,
Matthias
My Orbea Rise was delivered brand new with a regular EP8 motor. Not a RS. I get the full 85 nm. Works great!Hi!
Has anyone tested to change the power to 85 Nm on the Orbea Rise yet? Planning on getting a Rise. If its possible to change it to 85 Nm I will 100% get one
Best regards,
Matthias
Hello ! How do you get a Rise with 85NmMy Orbea Rise was delivered brand new with a regular EP8 motor. Not a RS. I get the full 85 nm. Works great!
Just a normal EP8. I asked the dealer and they confirmed.Perfect
but can you see the RS on the motor or it’s a normal ep8 ? if I understand correctly it’s a normal or 8 ! Right ?
If everything goes right with your battery,This simply means that it’s possible to have a full power ep8 on the Orbea rise (Like the rot wild rx375).Just a normal EP8. I asked the dealer and they confirmed.
Dealers don’t fit the motors.I just know my Orbea was delivered with a normal EP 8 because of a mix up. They (the local dealer) made a mistake when they assembled the bike.
Hi, my rise come with an ep8 with rs sticker, but unlock to 85nm. But when I bought it it was a demo bike for test, so I don't know if someone unlock it or orbea deliver it with 85nm motor.My Orbea Rise was delivered brand new with a regular EP8 motor. Not a RS. I get the full 85 nm. Works great!
This maybe simply means that it's a 60NMHi, my rise come with an ep8 with rs sticker, but unlock to 85nm. But when I bought it it was a demo bike for test, so I don't know if someone unlock it or orbea deliver it with 85nm motor.
I've use it with 85nm, put dont notice a huge difference with setting at 60nm.
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