Rando_12345
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Might want to break out the old calculator on that one...That was my prediction in post #821...
Adding a 260Wh range extender, they get a gorgeous》 1KW 《 number for marketing purposes
Levo Gen 4 Levo Gen 4 Rumours and some facts...
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Yeah I know it's 1.1Kw...1Kw sounds nicer for marketing
840Wh battery would be horrible. It will make the bike ride extremely heavy and sluggish. Also, say goodbye to manuals and bunnyhops. There's a reason why Santa Cruz went with 600Wh on the Vala. Smaller and thinner battery also avoids the dreaded "pregnant downtube" looks that everyone hates.
I agree. Very very rarely would need 840W. 700W is about right.
Just get a 2nd battery for big days (assuming its removable)
I think I get what you say, but maybe also not, but OK...But it goes to 11, why not make 10 louder…..but this is 11
My view of why I think 1Kw is better for marketing(this case).
I use to study a bit of number psychology and it's uses. I would also suggest any business owner to invest some time to study a bit of that. It's a solid placed science behind it.
From my studies I know that the core of the psychology behind precision numbers is that you give the impression of confidence and authority. You showcase you’re presenting facts and working with truths. This makes you encourage the idea you’re trusted and offer transparency in what you do. Case studies found that using precise numbers in social media content can be a great way to boost conversions rates.
Round number bias is the tendency for people to prefer round numbers (i.e. numbers that end in 0) or semi-round numbers (i.e. numbers that end in 5). This phenomenon exists due to the fact that people are exposed to round, or semi-round, numbers more frequently, allowing them to remember those numbers more easily.
Odd numbers 》》》》
I am not saying even/precise numbers are everything in marketing, there is also space here for odd numbers as they are often associated with creativity, individuality and uniqueness. They are also seen as being more memorable and attention-grabbing than even numbers so they are also used often as they can help to make a product or service stand out from the competition.
Ebike/battery/motor(technical product) I would use precise numbers, for a service and odd number would probably be a better choice.
There is also the factor of audience you are presenting the product/service to, for that u need some market survey data or market research, big companies have people employed that do that.
It’s why they should offer 2 sizes.
I would rather the 840, weight isn’t an issue as the bike will stay properly planted on fast rocky shoots that I love to ride.
I’d love a 900 internal too…. But also there’s efficiency, the new motor could use less power for a given distance/climbing so the power we do have lasts that bit longer.
AussieRuss
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From what I have looked at the new style battery at 814-840 watt/hr that runs on the 48 volt system is pretty much the same weight as the current 700 watt/hr battery in the 36 volt setup
DuncanDoughnuts
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If you can afford a s-works you can afford a second smaller battery for every day riding.
I hope the battery will still be removable as I often do a battery swap when I do multi day events where we are allowed-to leave a battery at a water point.
If it’s small and compact like the Bosch battery even better.
At the moment I ride mostly with a 500 and then leave my 700 at the 1/2 way water point during a race. (We have ebike category races here )
But a range extender would be an even bigger bonus where there are no battery swap station on some of the longer events. As I have not found an elegant solution to stick a specialized batter in a hydration pack without riding with a full on hiking rucksack.
I hope the battery will still be removable as I often do a battery swap when I do multi day events where we are allowed-to leave a battery at a water point.
If it’s small and compact like the Bosch battery even better.
At the moment I ride mostly with a 500 and then leave my 700 at the 1/2 way water point during a race. (We have ebike category races here )
But a range extender would be an even bigger bonus where there are no battery swap station on some of the longer events. As I have not found an elegant solution to stick a specialized batter in a hydration pack without riding with a full on hiking rucksack.
I've an awful feeling this is the main feature being removed.
I could maybe live with a fixed battery if its fast charging, i can get 1.5kw into my power bank in 60 mins, so similar would be excellent.
But you sure cant beat a 2nd battery for a big day out.
Polar
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Side loading battery is one of few rumors I don't belive is true
DuncanDoughnuts
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I hope not .... I have not recovered from December's shopping yet
Don't worry, you can put down 10k euro now, and can do interest free finance for the rest of the 15k euro.
sluette
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Unbelievable, pictures should be popping up somewhere...
I imagine the Embargo lift time is set with the US timezones in mind, so probably in the afternoon in Europe. Assuming it's today...
Keep an eye on embn. They usually bollox up the video release and put it out early.
DuncanDoughnuts
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The problem is I earn in ZAR ....Not euro ....
etoni
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I thought about waiting for the new levo for a long time, but they can't equalize the amflow, let alone top it. My requirements are :
Trail bike not enduro
20kg
800wh
160/150 travel
Top motor
8-12 amp charging
and the price!
Too bad they can't manage that.
Trail bike not enduro
20kg
800wh
160/150 travel
Top motor
8-12 amp charging
and the price!
Too bad they can't manage that.
Other than price you are close
I have never seen a new bike model launched on a Monday.
Blue Monday would distort perceptions and increase criticism from skeptics.
The preferred day is usually a Wednesday or, alternatively, Tuesday or Thursday.
Not Friday, as people are already thinking about the weekend...
Blue Monday would distort perceptions and increase criticism from skeptics.
The preferred day is usually a Wednesday or, alternatively, Tuesday or Thursday.
Not Friday, as people are already thinking about the weekend...
etoni
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Top motor only dji 1000w powerOther than price you are close
8-12 amp
price
all this is not specialized like…
Specialized has made a mistake (imho) with timing on this bike .
When customers realize high quality bikes (Forbidden,Unno and at least 4 others) will come with Dji this year, the new Levo will not be the "star" of the show uppon launch. It will sure be at the front, but not the leader as it once was.
I understand they had stocks to worry about, but customers don't care about that...
When customers realize high quality bikes (Forbidden,Unno and at least 4 others) will come with Dji this year, the new Levo will not be the "star" of the show uppon launch. It will sure be at the front, but not the leader as it once was.
I understand they had stocks to worry about, but customers don't care about that...
Seagrave7
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Specialized typically launches mountain bikes on Tuesday.
etoni
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412MTB
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If they just had the press launch last weekend I’d think the launch will still be a few weeks away. They need to give time to the media outlets and reviewers to prepare articles, videos etc. to coordinate with the launch.
From what i understand the embargo lifts on 4. Feb
Polar
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Customers care about warranty and support and the star is still shiny and sparkling In this respect at Specialized
I mean it depends on what motor they have gone with. We still don't know that info yet. I find it hard to believe it's a Brose Peak at this point but we'll see soon. Hopefully whatever it is sets a new standard for reliability. Industry needs to move away from motors being seen as a consumable.
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