Levo Gen 2 Levo battery is dead

[motoadve]

Battery is 3 years old, 150 cycles, about 2,000 miles

 

[cozzy]

Super unlucky dude. Its very unlikely you broke it.
But offering 50% is more than reasonable.
Never a lender nor a borrower be as my old dad used to say.

 

[James_C]

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[Weeksy]

Sorry fella, if you were riding it for multiple rides, it's on you for 100% in my book

 

[RustyIron]

It's interesting to read different opinions on this question. I can't say that anyone here is wrong. Friendships have been destroyed over simpler problems.

If the clapped out old battery was mine, I'd like to think that I'd just write it off and not accept any payment from my friend. I don't like to think of my friendships as monetary arrangements. If I was the guy who borrowed the battery, and he wasn't flush with cash, maybe I'd offer him a hundred bucks, or maybe invite him over to dinner and serve something nice. But if the dude is adamant that I buy him a new battery, I'd start thinking of him as the kind of friend who is just looking to pick my pockets at every opportunity.

 

[#lazy]

You gotta ask the borrower what they did when using and charging it , if it was the same as what you do then you can’t make them pay unless you get it in writing before hand if anything breaks you pay !

Edit if I borrowed a dodgy bike that broke I’d ask the lender for
Compensation

 

[Tim22]

You gotta ask the borrower what they did when using and charging it , if it was the same as what you do then you can’t make them pay unless you get it in writing before hand if anything breaks you pay !

Edit if I borrowed a dodgy bike that broke I’d ask the lender for
Compensation

It's all a crap shoot. Waiting on a warranty battery from my new bike. Bought in May and died after 4 charge cycles. Now waiting for 2 mo. 4 motors on my 20 Comp

 

[Binhill1]

Battery is 3 years old, 150 cycles, about 2,000 mile, I borrowed it from a friend , since mine was being shipped by boat, I used it for 5 rides, returned to my friend and now it wont charge, and he says I broke his battery.
Is this terminal? Is there a company that fixes batteries?
I asked him , what did I do to break the battery? To me, it was due to fail anyway, but he is blaming me.
I offered to pay half of the repair cost.

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That's the reason I don't like to borrow or loan anything with anyone. Sods law it will get damaged.

 

[edruid]

This is 100% up to you, noone on this forum has any real insight into this.

 

[motmcd]

My approach: when I borrow anything from friends or family I accept responsibility if I break it, damage it, or lose it, that I’m on the hook financially for costs to make the lender whole. Close relationships aren’t worth losing over material items.

In a recent example, while loading our mtn bikes into my truck after a ride, I forgot to install the brake wedge after removing the front wheel from my buddy’s mtb and, of course, I accidentally squeezed the brake lever. Oh shucks!!

My fault, my fix so I paid my local bike shop to service front and rear brakes by draining and replacing brake fluid, install new pads, and adjust everything to spec.

Cheers!!

 

[El Grifo]

Old Skool Rools should still apply !
If you bend it, you mend it !!
Simples !

 

[mtbexpress585]

You borrowed it and broke it, it's your responsibility to replace it.

 

[Frankenbetty]

You bend it you mend it. You break it you own it..
those are the rules.

 

[#lazy]

What if you don’t bend it but it breaks ? IMO no battery or motor failure can be put down to a 2hr ride !

 

[motmcd]

I understand your point; however he did spin 5 rides using the battery. Assuming he charged it 5 times, or even one time, it only takes one power spike to damage a battery during charging. And many e-bike riders don’t realize the male charging plug is magnetic and will pic up metal debris if left on the floor, etc. An unrecognized metal shaving can arch across terminals causing damage. I am not saying this is what happened; rather presenting scenarios that raise the specter of fault.

Best to all!!

 

[cream]

What if you don’t bend it but it breaks ? IMO no battery or motor failure can be put down to a 2hr ride !

You can easily kill a battery if metal debris will stick on battery connector or battery charger. Also, if you wash the bike with high pressure water.

 

[cream]

Anyway, Specialized batteries with BMS problems/locks, CAN be repaired

 

[ragetty]

Battery is 3 years old, 150 cycles, about 2,000 miles

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Some clarity required here methinks:

Can you honestly say it worked fine and charged fine, including before you returned it (to all obviously full?) and now it is not charging on his charger? … and also now not on yours?

If was full when you returned it and only after then did it break, then I view your offer as more than fair.

 

[adammann93]

Anyway, Specialized batteries with BMS problems/locks, CAN be repaired

Do you have anymore information on this? I have a 700wh battery in "Permanent Failure" status.

 

[cream]

Do you have anymore information on this? I have a 700wh battery in "Permanent Failure" status.




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Do you have anymore information on this? I have a 700wh battery in "Permanent Failure" status.

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Hello,

If the cells are in good condition, I can help you with the repair, but you’ll have to send the battery. If you’re not in EU, it’s more complicated.

 

[Mon-tech]

Hi, I'm joining the discussion. I have a 504Wh M2 battery recharged to 720Wh by me with the BMS blocked, it has no flashing lights, but it doesn't supply current! Is there an unlocking procedure?