Other JUST DROPPED: All-new Slash+ e-MTB

[ohiomoto]

Slash + e-MTB

 

[E-MAD MALC]

Slash + e-MTB

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Love the colour and a well put together bike
But Have they joined the party to late with the up and coming new more smaller powerf motors hopefully hitting the market soon

 

[Darkyhs]

Are we the only ones truly excited about this bike? I cannot wait to see it at my LBS and try it out. Currently on a Voima and extremely happy, but would love to have a Light E-Bike which the battery can be removed.

 

[Bullit]

I picked up my Slash+ 9.7 today.
Now it's being wrapped and a few components are being replaced.
Hopefully I can do my first test drive this weekend.

 

[HandsomeDanNZ]

Are we the only ones truly excited about this bike? I cannot wait to see it at my LBS and try it out. Currently on a Voima and extremely happy, but would love to have a Light E-Bike which the battery can be removed.

The only reason I am not excited about this bike is that I have just bought a new eBike and simply don't want to get buyers remorse!

 

[Bullit]

The first 5 test rides have been done and I have to say, the bike is really fun.

I converted it straight away and didn't ride it with the original suspension elements.
I mounted an Öhlins TTX2 coil shock and an RFX 38 suspension fork with 180 mm travel.

I'm currently riding with around 32 percent sag in the rear, although the spring is a little too soft, the rear end still generates a lot of counter pressure. It jumps very well and yet absorbs bumps very confidently.
It is also surprisingly maneuverable, even though the long fork is mounted at the front, it is still easy to maneuver over winding trails.
Originally the bike was actually only intended for rough trails and bike parks. I thought it was a bit too much for my local trails, but since it's so handy I'm now debating whether I should really keep my Fuel EXe.

The larger battery is also very pleasant. With the factory settings (Eco 150, Trail 250, Turbo 300) I can achieve approx. 35 km and 1450 m altitude. Mostly ridden in Trail with just some Eco and Turbo.
With the Exe (Eco 100, Trail 200, Turbo 300) I can cover approx. 26 km with 900 m in altitude with the same driving style.

The EXe was my first trail bike so far; before that I only rode enduro and downhill bikes.
I had changed the suspension to 150 mm / 160 mm and have driven everything with it for the last two years.
Of course I was a little slower on exposed trails and it sometimes hurt a bit when landing badly, but I was impressed by the handiness.

In my opinion, the Slash does everything the Fuel does, but is much faster and more forgiving.

 

[Inde_Si]

The first 5 test rides have been done and I have to say, the bike is really fun.

I converted it straight away and didn't ride it with the original suspension elements.
I mounted an Öhlins TTX2 coil shock and an RFX 38 suspension fork with 180 mm travel.

I'm currently riding with around 32 percent sag in the rear, although the spring is a little too soft, the rear end still generates a lot of counter pressure. It jumps very well and yet absorbs bumps very confidently.
It is also surprisingly maneuverable, even though the long fork is mounted at the front, it is still easy to maneuver over winding trails.
Originally the bike was actually only intended for rough trails and bike parks. I thought it was a bit too much for my local trails, but since it's so handy I'm now debating whether I should really keep my Fuel EXe.

The larger battery is also very pleasant. With the factory settings (Eco 150, Trail 250, Turbo 300) I can achieve approx. 35 km and 1450 m altitude. Mostly ridden in Trail with just some Eco and Turbo.
With the Exe (Eco 100, Trail 200, Turbo 300) I can cover approx. 26 km with 900 m in altitude with the same driving style.

The EXe was my first trail bike so far; before that I only rode enduro and downhill bikes.
I had changed the suspension to 150 mm / 160 mm and have driven everything with it for the last two years.
Of course I was a little slower on exposed trails and it sometimes hurt a bit when landing badly, but I was impressed by the handiness.

In my opinion, the Slash does everything the Fuel does, but is much faster and more forgiving.


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Your build looks really nice ! Seems like the Slash + will be added on my wishlist haha

 

[Cameyo]

The first 5 test rides have been done and I have to say, the bike is really fun.

I converted it straight away and didn't ride it with the original suspension elements.
I mounted an Öhlins TTX2 coil shock and an RFX 38 suspension fork with 180 mm travel.

I'm currently riding with around 32 percent sag in the rear, although the spring is a little too soft, the rear end still generates a lot of counter pressure. It jumps very well and yet absorbs bumps very confidently.
It is also surprisingly maneuverable, even though the long fork is mounted at the front, it is still easy to maneuver over winding trails.
Originally the bike was actually only intended for rough trails and bike parks. I thought it was a bit too much for my local trails, but since it's so handy I'm now debating whether I should really keep my Fuel EXe.

The larger battery is also very pleasant. With the factory settings (Eco 150, Trail 250, Turbo 300) I can achieve approx. 35 km and 1450 m altitude. Mostly ridden in Trail with just some Eco and Turbo.
With the Exe (Eco 100, Trail 200, Turbo 300) I can cover approx. 26 km with 900 m in altitude with the same driving style.

The EXe was my first trail bike so far; before that I only rode enduro and downhill bikes.
I had changed the suspension to 150 mm / 160 mm and have driven everything with it for the last two years.
Of course I was a little slower on exposed trails and it sometimes hurt a bit when landing badly, but I was impressed by the handiness.

In my opinion, the Slash does everything the Fuel does, but is much faster and more forgiving.


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What is the weight of your build? Running Kenevo SL1 now and thinking of an upgrade.

 

[Bullit]

It is 20.6 kgs, Pedals included.

 

[roQer]

For the size M or L?

 

[Darkyhs]

The first 5 test rides have been done and I have to say, the bike is really fun.

I converted it straight away and didn't ride it with the original suspension elements.
I mounted an Öhlins TTX2 coil shock and an RFX 38 suspension fork with 180 mm travel.

I'm currently riding with around 32 percent sag in the rear, although the spring is a little too soft, the rear end still generates a lot of counter pressure. It jumps very well and yet absorbs bumps very confidently.
It is also surprisingly maneuverable, even though the long fork is mounted at the front, it is still easy to maneuver over winding trails.
Originally the bike was actually only intended for rough trails and bike parks. I thought it was a bit too much for my local trails, but since it's so handy I'm now debating whether I should really keep my Fuel EXe.

The larger battery is also very pleasant. With the factory settings (Eco 150, Trail 250, Turbo 300) I can achieve approx. 35 km and 1450 m altitude. Mostly ridden in Trail with just some Eco and Turbo.
With the Exe (Eco 100, Trail 200, Turbo 300) I can cover approx. 26 km with 900 m in altitude with the same driving style.

The EXe was my first trail bike so far; before that I only rode enduro and downhill bikes.
I had changed the suspension to 150 mm / 160 mm and have driven everything with it for the last two years.
Of course I was a little slower on exposed trails and it sometimes hurt a bit when landing badly, but I was impressed by the handiness.

In my opinion, the Slash does everything the Fuel does, but is much faster and more forgiving.


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I've just ordered this exact bike as well for me, size L, same color and Ill put all my parts from the Pole on this one. Do you have a specific tune on the rear shock?

 

[Bullit]

For the size M or L?

The size is L.

 

[Bullit]

I've just ordered this exact bike as well for me, size L, same color and Ill put all my parts from the Pole on this one. Do you have a specific tune on the rear shock?

I bought the damper used, it doesn't have any special tuning.

 

[Darkyhs]

This is mine Bought the 9.7 version, and upgraded it to almost 9.9 or whichever one is the highest specc! My own specc with Deemax Wheels Mullet , XX1 AXS + Reverb AXS, Renthal Allu cockpit, MT7 Brakes with 220 Rotors and 190MM Zeb Ultimate + Vivid Air Ultimate

22KG with DD tires front and rear and heavy Chromag Dagga pedals. If needed it can always slim down but after my first ride, not needed!

 

[Doomanic]

22kg is disappointing TBH.

 

[Suns_PSD]

It's a logical weight for those sorts of components and the big battery.

I'm impressed honestly.

Pinkbike stated in a Podcast that the Trek E-slash is probably the best descending bike, or e-bike, they have ever ridden. Ever.

 

[Darkyhs]

I think it depends on what you are looking in a bike for. If you're looking for the fastest, lightest e-bike. This isn't it.

This is a bike you ride up like a regular bike with a little bit of assistance. A bike that makes you enjoy the climb and listen to the birds while doing it. A bike that when you point it down doesn't make any sounds other than the tires. A bike you can remove the battery from and go to the bike park.

I think this small movie describes exactly what it feels like


I have also the Pole Voima with the Bosch Race Motor. This is a completely different monster, and to be honest, I think I will only ride this bike going forward. Due to the points I particularly look for in a ride. But hey, it's all personal who wants what and looks for what qualities in a ride

Either way, this is my cup of tea

 

[whitymon]

Bike seems cool, but I really wonder how well it would help you do climb and how many laps you would be able to do.

Slash is really done for DH so with such small battery (compared to some other 750-800), I really fear that you cannot do lots of laps as a self lift compare to a bigger battery.

THB, I am really not sure it is the best for DH either, to me the Range VLT C1 seems way more capable in all points and by far - just me.

 

[Emailsucks98]

22KG with DD tires front and rear and heavy Chromag Dagga pedals. If needed it can always slim down but after my first ride, not needed!

Nice ride and I find that weight quite reasonable for your build.

If you believe Trek's published weights, the Slash+ is only 1.33kg heavier than an EXe with the same SLX/XT parts and same wheels/tires.
The 580 battery is .845kg more than the 360
So only .485kg more to go from a 36 to a 38 & beefier high pivot frame with more travel.

Of course those stock tires had to go!

I wonder what my EXe with Zeb, DD's and coil rear weighs.....

 

[Mteam]

I wonder what my EXe with Zeb, DD's and coil rear weighs.....

Probably 19.5 to 20kg, that's what my EXe with 38's, Conti tyres etc weighs

 

[roQer]

My fully downhilled Kenovo SL with 175 mm travel by means of a overstroked shock, 180 mm 38 up front and sturdy tires weights 19,5. With range extender it amounts to around 20,5 kg and 480Wh battery capacity. I‘m tempted by the Slash+ but not sure what does the Slash better, maybe besides a better insertion length for the dropper.

 

[Darkyhs]

I am sure I can bring it down significantly with a smaller battery, trail tires and carbon wheels(19KG's). But for my 90KG's and my style it isn't sustainable .
Therefore, I am the happiest person. I couldnt believe it yesterday during its first ride how quiet the bike is pointed down. I could hear the tires rather than the Bosch Rattle.

I am extremely happy and think I will remain with 1 bike to do it all! When I go to a bikepark I take the battery off and lose 2.7 KG's.

Nice ride and I find that weight quite reasonable for your build.

If you believe Trek's published weights, the Slash+ is only 1.33kg heavier than an EXe with the same SLX/XT parts and same wheels/tires.
The 580 battery is .845kg more than the 360
So only .485kg more to go from a 36 to a 38 & beefier high pivot frame with more travel.

Of course those stock tires had to go!

I wonder what my EXe with Zeb, DD's and coil rear weighs.....

 

[mustclime]

One thing I don’t understand with the slash plus and the slash, why do they need a lower idler? There are a bunch of high pivot bikes out there that don’t require them. Is it because of the crappy tension spring on the sram transmission?

 

[Emailsucks98]

My fully downhilled Kenovo SL with 175 mm travel by means of a overstroked shock, 180 mm 38 up front and sturdy tires weights 19,5. With range extender it amounts to around 20,5 kg and 480Wh battery capacity. I‘m tempted by the Slash+ but not sure what does the Slash better, maybe besides a better insertion length for the dropper.

The TQ motor is quieter, has more power and a bigger battery. But the Kenevo SLs are sweet. Several of my friends have them and love them.

 

[Emailsucks98]

Probably 19.5 to 20kg, that's what my EXe with 38's, Conti tyres etc weighs

That's about what I figured. No complaints about the weight.

 

[roQer]

The TQ motor is quieter, has more power and a bigger battery. But the Kenevo SLs are sweet. Several of my friends have them and love them.

Did you ever ride a KSL for comparison? Would be really interested if the TQ motor has more power than the Mahle 1.2 in KSL.

 

[Emailsucks98]

Did you ever ride a KSL for comparison? Would be really interested if the TQ motor has more power than the Mahle 1.2 in KSL.

I haven't ridden their Kenevos but we've all ridden together. And we're all different weights/heights so I wouldn't deduce much from it.

One ride, we had myself, my GF on her Devinci with Bosch SL, and her friend on a new Levo SL.

 

[Bullit]

Did you ever ride a KSL for comparison? Would be really interested if the TQ motor has more power than the Mahle 1.2 in KSL.

I used to have a Kenevo SL 1.
I don't see a big difference in terms of engine power.
The TQ engine has more power, but it reduces the performance after a while if you are constantly driving in turbo mode.
The Mahle engine doesn't do that.

 

[Emailsucks98]

The TQ engine has more power, but it reduces the performance after a while if you are constantly driving in turbo mode.
The Mahle engine doesn't do that.

In 2yrs I have only experienced that twice with the TQ, on very hot days, but I use boost mode sparingly. TQ changed something here in their firmware, it's less of an issue than it used to be.

Regardless of the limiting, the motor w/360wh battery seems much less efficient in boost mode, the range tanks compared to trail mode. For example I've killed a battery in only 1700' using mainly boost (riding with FFs) but have gotten 3800' several times using trail mode.

TQ said something about how the larger battery on the slash+ helps with thermal management, which makes the motor more efficient.

 

[Cameyo]

TQ said something about how the larger battery on the slash+ helps with thermal management, which makes the motor more efficient.

Today I rode Slash+ 9.7. Amazing bike on decents, and would be even better with top-tier front fork and enduro/DH tires.
The biggest/only disapointment comes from the motor:

- 450m of climbs in turbo mode - flawless, ca. 300W distribution
- 5 min decent
- during next 200m of climbs power started to fade away gradually down to 200W after 400m of climbing.
- 10min decent, started to climb, all comes back to normal, with similar issue repeating after 300m of climbing
- when eco mode was used for 5 min, the motor could generate max power but I decided to keep it on 2nd mode until the peak.

To sum up, the turbo mode shall be used occacsionaly otherwise the motor overheats. The ride was in 10-15 degrees Celsius.