Hub size, any way around it?

steve_sordy

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Apologies for this not being an e-bike specific question, but I know that most of you guys have had mtbs before and are a font of all biking knowledge. I'm hoping that you can help. :)

My grandson has a 1x11 Orange Five with a 142mm wide hub spacing and a 12mm dia axle. He has a medium frame and wants to buy a large frame and transfer all his kit across. The main problem that I can see is that the 2018 frame was designed for 1x12 and consequently has a 148mm wide hub spacing, still with a 12mm dia axle.

I know that his existing wheel will fit in there, and that I can probably get a new 148x12 Maxle to go with it, but can you get spacers to fill the 2x3mm gap? Or is this size misfit insoluble without a new hub?
 

mike_kelly

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The 142 standard is just a thru axle 135mm. The 148mm is boost spacing. There are hubs that have replaceable endcaps that allow the hub to used in multiple rear spacings. It is common to have a boost hub that can be used 12x148 thru or 10x141QR in the same rear 148mm spacing. 142 thru is the same spacing as 9x135. But I am not sure if there are endcaps that can make the 142 work in 148. You will have to check the website of your hub manufacturer.

Steve if your grandson needs the larger frame and new wheels are the only option, I just got wheels for my new hardtail build and they look good.
Available in 148 or 142 versions they seem like decent wheels and I can't buy the parts to build them myself for this price. It took me 26 days to get the wheels shipped from Asia. Not sure what your import and transportation issues are compared to mine in the US. But you might take a look for $159 usd.

 
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steve_sordy

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@mike_kelly Thanks. :)
I have yet to look at the cost of a rear wheel.
I really mean HE needs to look, but he's 17 and paying for driving lessons and has just started his first full-time job. So as long as he doesn't spend all his money on branded trainers and upgrades to his surround sound games centre, then he can afford to do this. Grandad decided to stop buying him bikes when he got his first full-time job. :unsure:
 

steve_sordy

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I hear you. Best way to learn to budget :)
Not just to budget, but to learn to evaluate and assess specs, reviews, to use eBay and Google and so forth. Don't just go for the first bike you see etc. Quite quickly he began to see the value in replacing the medium frame for a large frame and transferring his kit across. He is bright enough, just unfocussed. If it was trainers, he'd be on it like a cat on mice!

I spent an hour or so today on the Orange website chasing down specs for every Orange Five frame from 2015 to 2020. The frame made a big change in 2018, but fixable. 2019 is the same as the 2018, but 2020 made too many changes. He now knows this as I sent him the raw data (but all in one place and easy to read). I set him the challenge to read it and feedback to me what conclusions he draws. I spoil that boy! :giggle:

If he takes too long, he may lose that bargain frame and shock that I have found. Then he will just have to wait! :cry:
 

mike_kelly

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I am truly amazed at how many don't or don't know how to shop for the best value. You see on sites like Amazon and Ebay that the exact same product might be wildly different in price from multiple vendors. Doing a little research will take your money a lot further.
 

Mr President

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Apologies for this not being an e-bike specific question, but I know that most of you guys have had mtbs before and are a font of all biking knowledge. I'm hoping that you can help. :)

My grandson has a 1x11 Orange Five with a 142mm wide hub spacing and a 12mm dia axle. He has a medium frame and wants to buy a large frame and transfer all his kit across. The main problem that I can see is that the 2018 frame was designed for 1x12 and consequently has a 148mm wide hub spacing, still with a 12mm dia axle.

I know that his existing wheel will fit in there, and that I can probably get a new 148x12 Maxle to go with it, but can you get spacers to fill the 2x3mm gap? Or is this

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