Hi, I am from Newcastle upon Tyne and I am NEEDING HELP with Ebikes

Zimmerframe

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I tried to answer your survey, but I think your questions need either changing/re-focussing or you need to give more of a description.

As it is, I can't see how you'll possibly get any useful information from it - unless it's an incredibly clever survey designed to extract information without anyone realising what they're really saying ??

For instance . The introduction is "Hi, I am researching into E-bikes and how to generate methods which create energy from the bikes whilst on the move. "

The first question and answers are :

The product would have numerous benefits, what would be the most appealing to you ? *
It would generate power from the bike whilst on the move
It would be cost efficient
Eco-friendly
How there would be less need for charging as you could replace the battery with a pre-charged source
A powerful lightweight motor
Integrated lights
Other:

So you've not really said what "the product is" - possibly by design, but the answers don't necessarily fit with a system which presumably captures the cyclists energy or regenerative energy when descending.

If we look at your options (as benefits)

It would generate power from the bike whilst on the move . That potentially suggests that as you pedal, it will be charging ? So instead of the e-bike assisting - the 25kg lump which is hard enough to pedal as it is - will be even harder ? So no, not really a benefit. If it was magic, yes, that would be great. Unfortunately we live on a planet with friction, air and gravity. Whilst it's round, which from a zoomed out perspective might give the impression that whichever way you go would be downhill, it's not really like that.

It would be cost efficient. How ? It needs less electricity to charge ? It's going to cost more than a none e-bike as it has more features (motor/battery/capacitor?/generator) Does it charge constantly, but then is easier when going down hill ? Which would be horrible on a mountain bike as it would be like your brakes are on all the time. Or does it just generate when braking ? Without the information, it's impossible to answer the questions accurately.

Eco-friendly - again - how ? though the lack of need to charge ? Lets take a bike, make it heavy, make it harder to pedal as you charge on the go, so that it's a bit easier when you go uphill. We can achieve all that by changing the e-bike to a bike which would be far more eco friendly.

A powerful lightweight motor Everyone would like a powerful lightweight motor ? but by having a system which is generating power, why does that mean you end up with a powerful lightweight motor ?

Integrated lights Integrated lights are nice. You can have them now. But the answer doesn't fit with the question ?

The next section is equally confusing in how to answer.

What is your personal attraction to E-bikes? *
Exercise
Ease of movement
For socialising
Lightweight / retractable - Have you ridden an e-bike ? Or carried one upstairs ?
Affordability - Have you bought an e-bike ? I'm presuming you mean in comparison to commuting/car/helicopter/buying fuel/congestion charge
Just for fun

The last question again is impossible to answer without knowing what it is, what it does, what it's advantages are disadvantages are :

Lastly, would you be interested in the power generating device ? *
 

Mikerb

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Wow you spent some time on that Zimmer! My guess is the OP is chasing that old impossible dream of physics....perpetual motion! You are of course right. Every method of generating energy has a cost. If the OP wants to significantly improve the e bike system the answer assuming there is one, is the development of significantly better ratios of battery capacity to size/weight. All current self charging technologies are dual energy/hybrids. Our dual energy is battery power or human power.
I'm sure Zimmer could illustrate a super whizz e bike festooned with solar panels and a few wind vanes though!!!
 

Cole Glover

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Aug 31, 2020
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United Kingdom
I tried to answer your survey, but I think your questions need either changing/re-focussing or you need to give more of a description.

As it is, I can't see how you'll possibly get any useful information from it - unless it's an incredibly clever survey designed to extract information without anyone realising what they're really saying ??

For instance . The introduction is "Hi, I am researching into E-bikes and how to generate methods which create energy from the bikes whilst on the move. "

The first question and answers are :

The product would have numerous benefits, what would be the most appealing to you ? *
It would generate power from the bike whilst on the move
It would be cost efficient
Eco-friendly
How there would be less need for charging as you could replace the battery with a pre-charged source
A powerful lightweight motor
Integrated lights
Other:

So you've not really said what "the product is" - possibly by design, but the answers don't necessarily fit with a system which presumably captures the cyclists energy or regenerative energy when descending.

If we look at your options (as benefits)

It would generate power from the bike whilst on the move . That potentially suggests that as you pedal, it will be charging ? So instead of the e-bike assisting - the 25kg lump which is hard enough to pedal as it is - will be even harder ? So no, not really a benefit. If it was magic, yes, that would be great. Unfortunately we live on a planet with friction, air and gravity. Whilst it's round, which from a zoomed out perspective might give the impression that whichever way you go would be downhill, it's not really like that.

It would be cost efficient. How ? It needs less electricity to charge ? It's going to cost more than a none e-bike as it has more features (motor/battery/capacitor?/generator) Does it charge constantly, but then is easier when going down hill ? Which would be horrible on a mountain bike as it would be like your brakes are on all the time. Or does it just generate when braking ? Without the information, it's impossible to answer the questions accurately.

Eco-friendly - again - how ? though the lack of need to charge ? Lets take a bike, make it heavy, make it harder to pedal as you charge on the go, so that it's a bit easier when you go uphill. We can achieve all that by changing the e-bike to a bike which would be far more eco friendly.

A powerful lightweight motor Everyone would like a powerful lightweight motor ? but by having a system which is generating power, why does that mean you end up with a powerful lightweight motor ?

Integrated lights Integrated lights are nice. You can have them now. But the answer doesn't fit with the question ?

The next section is equally confusing in how to answer.

What is your personal attraction to E-bikes? *
Exercise
Ease of movement
For socialising
Lightweight / retractable - Have you ridden an e-bike ? Or carried one upstairs ?
Affordability - Have you bought an e-bike ? I'm presuming you mean in comparison to commuting/car/helicopter/buying fuel/congestion charge
Just for fun

The last question again is impossible to answer without knowing what it is, what it does, what it's advantages are disadvantages are :

Lastly, would you be interested in the power generating device ? *


Hello, wow thank you for the help, amazing feedback !

The aim of these questions is to learn more about the target audience and to briefly seek an opinion on the moral concept on the idea to see if there is a demand there for what i am pursuing.

I do then plan to go back with more detailed questions to provide a better understanding.

Thank you again for your feedback, it has been most helpful :)
 

Cole Glover

New Member
Aug 31, 2020
6
2
United Kingdom
Wow you spent some time on that Zimmer! My guess is the OP is chasing that old impossible dream of physics....perpetual motion! You are of course right. Every method of generating energy has a cost. If the OP wants to significantly improve the e bike system the answer assuming there is one, is the development of significantly better ratios of battery capacity to size/weight. All current self charging technologies are dual energy/hybrids. Our dual energy is battery power or human power.
I'm sure Zimmer could illustrate a super whizz e bike festooned with solar panels and a few wind vanes though!!!
I did read it afterwards and was concerned it could be viewed as none constructive ! So glad you took it in the way it was intended ??


If you would be up for it, I would love to quiz you further with some questions over email ? I could give a better understanding of my idea on there along with slides etc. :)
 

KeithR

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Jul 1, 2020
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Blyth, Northumberland
It would generate power from the bike whilst on the move . That potentially suggests that as you pedal, it will be charging ? So instead of the e-bike assisting - the 25kg lump which is hard enough to pedal as it is - will be even harder ?
I'm reading this as being a form of (or similar to) regenerative braking, Zim - getting juice back into the battery while we're not pedalling.
 

Zimmerframe

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If you would be up for it, I would love to quiz you further with some questions over email ? I could give a better understanding of my idea on there along with slides etc. :)
Sure, no problem .. There's other miserable cantankerous old gits here you could question too :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

I'll point you in specific directions if I think someone is more experienced on any of your questions.
 

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