E-Mythique Mud Guards (+the other Vitus and maybe most none fixed rear triangle bikes)

Zimmerframe

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Depending where you are in the world, the moist season is nearing ... (or ending....)

If you have a fixed rear triangle bike, mudguard options are normally fairly easy. You can mount on the seat stays, make sure it extends down to the chain stays, everything's moving in unison and your bearings/motor aren't full of crap. (used to me a problem on the gen1 Kenevo as there was a nice hole to funnel all the mud into the motor there..)

What fits ?

Muckynutz :

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It's not too bad and you might get away with it. Though crap normally gets drawn away from the bottom lip towards the bearings. Keep in mind that with sag and then travel, the bottom of the guard rises further away from the bottom linkage. The Mudhugger short sits pretty similarly.

You can mount it upside down, but because the rear triangle isn't fixed, it rubs against the chainstays with suspension movement and it doesn't catch most of the top fling when upside down.

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Ideally at this point, you just buy a two part guard like the Sicom two part. Unfortunately, this doesn't fit.

Just for reference, the mudhugger long also fits, but you'd want to combine it with another guard or all the crap will funnel down to your linkages.

Yes, it's really ugly, but it does work if you're in the slop ! (Though if you ride in the really rough stuff it gets slightly annoying as it slaps the tyre - I think they braced this more with newer versions) :

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On the Kenevo I just run two guards with the lower one being a custom guard. This stays on all year as you don't really notice it, it doesn't get in the way and it stops most crap getting in the lower bearings.

Sometimes you can use two other guards together, but it will depend on the bike. The mudhugger short, for instance, is slightly too wide to fit in between the chainstays :

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Instead, it's easier to just make a lower funnel guard which stops a lot of crap on it's own and stop's 100% of the crap if you have an upper guard. It takes 10 minutes to make and possibly costs nothing.

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Ideally, you start with one of those clip on under saddle flexy guards. I couldn't find one sitting around, so used a shorter fork one. The saddle ones are better as they're longer so catch more crap when they're installed on their own.

If you've got a plastic document folder or similar, it's the same plastic and works just as well .

Step 1 : (this is the most important step. Prepare creativity fuel. Remember, anyone not undertaking the project can also perform Step 1 and feel a sense of involvement and achievement ...)

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Step 2 : Get the scissors and cut up your guard. With the seat one, because it's longer, this cut would have worked fine. In this case I needed to trim the sides slightly afterwards as the curve induced by mounting wasn't sufficient and it was closer to the chain than I'd like. For the Mythique, I drilled two additional holes (a round hole won't tear like a cut) 6cm's higher than the two existing holes (Measure the height of the brace bar between the chainstays).

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You also need two 20cm zip ties/tie wraps ..I also blacked out the SPANK.

Then when you mount your "upper guard" .. all the crap gets funnelled away :

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Weights for weight weenies .... MuckyNutz (With straps) 80g. Mudhugger Short (without fixings) 75g. Cut down Spank fork guard 15g.
 
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Mikerb

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I use the Mudhugger front mounted back to front on the back....slightly cut down. Still with me? In the winter I fit the Mudhugger rear (the ugly one!) over the top of that......using re-useable zip ties, so easy to fit and remove before any ride depending on the conditions.
Ps note there are different sizes of the rear mudhugger.....your pic has the large fitted and it should be the smaller one.
 

IcePaws

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Sep 7, 2023
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SicoMtb have made one for the e-sommet, so assume it will also fit the e-m....
I'll let you know when it arrives towards the end of this week! NBD is tomorrow (VRX)!!!!

Nothing on the SicoMtb website yet though.
 

Amber Valley Guy

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I know it's a different bike, (mines a Cannondale Moterra) but I cut the sides of the Mucky Nutz down with a pair of tin snips to clear the chain , wiring and chain stays but left a longer central tab that extends down further. Sorry can't remember if it's a short or long MN. See pic.

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Mikerb

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On all my bikes.....Levo, Cube Stereo Hybrid and 2 Whyte bikes, I use a Mudhugger front mudguard fitted to the back of the bike. It fits to the seat stays and covers about half the diameter of the wheel with the front fitting down to the bar a cross the chainstays. Usually that front end has to be trimmed so that it goes as far as you prefer on any particular bike.


 

Anssi

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I just got the Sicomtb one. On my XL frame it does end a bit short like the Muckynuts in the first picture. I fitted it (did seem to fit pretty nicely, no apparent clearance issues) and went to a little jump park. Just catching the tiniest bit of air, there was a shralp noise at the rear. Not quite sure what did this, I'm assuming the top end of the mudguard is flexing and hitting the tire. Wanted to ride so did not analyze (also saw no way to change the position out there) so just cut the zipties and took the mudguard off. Getting back home, it looks like there are instructions on their website to heat and bend the mudguards for more clearance. I think I will try that. Edit: I did try the heat and bend, and on a trail ride today I did not hear any weird noises. Have to test in jumps next.

On the front, I got the Visionvelo universal (this is a size, it is specific to the fork) mudguard for my Zeb. Fit was amazing and the thing is super solid. I maybe should've gone for the long version, but was afraid of it flexing like the rear mudguard now seems to. However, after a couple of rides with this, I don't think there would be any issue.

I also have an Ass Savers clip-on mudguard for my saddle for XC type stuff and it is what you would except. Easy to put on and take off and might save your ass from some muck.
 
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