Cube Stereo 160 S 750 2022 Specs Modifications

[BeBiker]

Positioning both the Kiox and the Garmin is a challenge.
I tried next to each other: no more place for the night-lights

Then both at centre, the original mount on the steering bar next to the stem.
To be able to charge the garmin on the bike, the Kiox must be to the front.

so let's try these on the stem:

With the angled one the Garmin comes much too high.
The small one's outside diameter is a bit too large.

So let's remove 0.5mm of the outside diameter

It fits !

That's better:

 

[BeBiker]

No need to throw this away, it was only there for a week.

Maxxis off, Pirelli on.

Comparison between a Maxxis Ikon Skinwall 27.5x2.2 and this Pirelli Mtb M 27.5x2.4.
The pirelli is a bit rougher, with a bit higher knobs at the side.

Approx the same width and height:

I don't have a Rekon to compare the Pirelli M.
But this image shows Rekon vs Ikon.
the Pirelli M looks a lot like the Rekon (left)

 

[Another One]

Positioning both the Kiox and the Garmin is a challenge.
I tried next to each other: no more place for the night-lights

Then both at centre, the original mount on the steering bar next to the stem.
Only the Garmin before the Kiox is possible, which makes the Garmin's charging port inaccessible.

So the Garmin on the stem tube with this thing:
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Comes much too high.

so let's try this:
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Doesn't fit in the angled stem.

So let's remove 0.5mm of the outside diameter
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It fits !
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That's better:
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Great work but way too much going on there for me.

 

[BeBiker]

Buying the right fitting Garmin stem holder the first time, could have made it easyer
But the lathe is there anyways, took less than 60 seconds to modify.

 

[BeBiker]

Another day another package
Going back from clickpedals to flatpedals.
A 34t to replace the 36t, better for climbing in tour+
The XT M8100-IR shifter to replace the M6100-IR.
A cable to connect the 12V night light to the motor.
And some spareparts.

 

[Joshwaaa]

Another day another package
Going back from clickpedals to flatpedals.
A 34t to replace the 36t, better for climbing in tour+
The XT M8100-IR shifter to replace the M6100-IR.
A cable to connect the 12V night light to the motor.
And some spareparts.
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Enjoy ! Look forward to the pictures once completed

 

[Gary Davis]

Another day another package
Going back from clickpedals to flatpedals.
A 34t to replace the 36t, better for climbing in tour+
The XT M8100-IR shifter to replace the M6100-IR.
A cable to connect the 12V night light to the motor.
And some spareparts.
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@BeBiker Hi mate. If one day you decide to buy a plane, please don't change anything !

 

[BeBiker]

-buy +build

 

[BeBiker]

Well that went too easy.

The cable comes mounted to the shifter, and is attached somewhere inside it.
So I cut the protective cap off the 'old' cable at the derailleur, loosened the screw,
and got the cable out of the sleeve towards the steering bar.
New cable into the 'old' sleeve, fixed the shifter, fixed the cable at the derailleur, ready.

Adjusted the derailleur somewhat, ready to test !

The XT M8100-IR shifter is a noticeable harder to push compared to the more gentle M6100-IR.
Advantages:
-Rapidfire: Shifting happens on the rising edge of the shift trigger.
-Shifting down has now 4 possible steps instead of 3 steps.
-Shifting up with thumb push towards the front has now 2 steps.

A bit strange that shifting up with index finger towards the back is still 1x.
But I never used that anyway.

 

[BeBiker]

I already had a crank puller, but not yet this. (8.95eur)
It will be needed to replace the 36t with a 34t chainring.

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[Gary Davis]

-buy +build

Anyway, every change you make is well thought out and well executed. Hats off !

 

[BeBiker]

The Cube Acid C1-IB flat pedals went on easily.

In tour-mode, I lack some power in climbing, so I need a smaller chainring.
On my other ebike, the 38t chainring (with a 11t smallest cog) gives me enough topspeed.
So I bought the chainring that is closest to 34.545t

e*spec Steel Direct Mount Chainring Bosch CX Gen4

Features - e*thirteen e*spec Steel Direct Mount Chainring Chainring for 10-, 11- and 12-speed Chain line 52mm (Boost) M3 narrow-wide tooth profile eliminates chain noise and decreases overall system wear Product features...

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This, and some blue loctite is all I needed:

36t off, left thread:

34t on, 30Nm:

The (cheap) lockring tool worked perfect !
The (already reduced) chain length seems ok, ready to go !

 

[BeBiker]

In 'Tour+' mode, the 34t behaves a lot better than the 36t, while the topspeed in 'Turbo' stays OK.
The XT shifter with the double-up was a good decision too !

As mentioned before, these 160SL are delivered with different brake levers.

Thinking:
Will I order this, or not ?
Will I order this, or not ?
Will I order this, or not ?
...

Too late, I ordered it

Shimano Deore M6100 Shimano Logo Brake Lever left - Brakes & Disc Brake Pads - Components - Bike - All

The Shimano Deore BL-M6100 brake lever for all-mountain and enduro use has a 2-finger brake lever made of aluminum. The reach can be adjusted using a tool (hexagon socket). And like the brake levers from Shimano's top groups, the Deore BL-M6100 was al

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I hesitated for a while to upgrade front+back to the XT M8120 (274.54 eur), like the 160AT, but several reviews showed me that there's no real added value in it for me. Of course the m6100's splitpen is not ideal, while the ventilated brakepads, more settings at the lever etc is better, but it's not relevant to me.

Shimano XT Scheibenbremse BL-M8100 + BR-M8120 Set, 279,83 €

SHIMANO Deore XT disc brake 4-piston BL-M8100 + BR-M8120 | set Probably the best and most versatile brake from Shimano is also becoming a pioneer in its cla

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[Another One]

In 'Tour+' mode, the 34t behaves a lot better than the 36t, while the topspeed in 'Turbo' stays OK.
The XT shifter with the double-up was a good decision too !

As mentioned before, these 160SL are delivered with different brake levers.

Will I order this, or not ?
Will I order this, or not ?
Will I order this, or not ?
...

Too late, I did

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Shimano Deore M6100 Shimano Logo Brake Lever left - Brakes & Disc Brake Pads - Components - Bike - All

The Shimano Deore BL-M6100 brake lever for all-mountain and enduro use has a 2-finger brake lever made of aluminum. The reach can be adjusted using a tool (hexagon socket). And like the brake levers from Shimano's top groups, the Deore BL-M6100 was al

www.sportokay.com

I hesitated for a while to upgrade front+back to the XT M8120 (274.54 eur), like the 160AT, but several reviews showed me that there's no real added value in it for me. Of course the splitpen is not ideal, the ventilated brakepads, more settings at the lever is better, but not relevant to me.

Shimano XT Scheibenbremse BL-M8100 + BR-M8120 Set, 279,83 €

SHIMANO Deore XT disc brake 4-piston BL-M8100 + BR-M8120 | set Probably the best and most versatile brake from Shimano is also becoming a pioneer in its cla

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So what did you order in the end?

 

[BeBiker]

So what did you order in the end?

Maybe I'll buy a matte MT520 4-piston caliper (like the one at the back) and a brake hose too,
so the complete front shiny 'Deore' labeled 4-piston kit can go to my Rockrider e-hardtail.

 

[BeBiker]

The Pirelli Scorpion "S" arrived yesterday, comparison to the "M" I have for a week:

I mounted the Scorpion "S" on the original NewMan 30 wheel of the Cube,
the Scorpion "M" moved to a 27.5 SunRingle 35 wheel I still had.
The SunRingle received a 203 Shimano rotor, so swapping is done in less than a minute.

Comparision of both front wheel options:

The 'feel' of the compound is the same, not so soft and sticky as the Assegai,
and I hope a lot less draggy too. The endresult:

Update 1: As expected, the "S" drives a lot better on loose and enduro. No lateral tyre roll.
On asphalt, there's no extra rolling resistance notable, the bike goes to it's topspeed very well.

Update 2: I did a tour with a lot of mud. The "S" behaves perfectly at the front.
A few times the "M" at the back slipped through a bit, but it was predictable, and stayed in control.

Perfect combination, maybe I could have put a 2.6 "M" at the back on a 35 wheel.
Sources say compared to the 2.4 they have a lower rolling resistance due to less relative deformation under load at high pressure.
I don't know if that's true (until I see a decent report of a scientific test setup)

 

[E-MAD MALC]

BeBiker
Got a nug on here your playing about with a Cube now
We seem to be going down the same road in relation to bikes
I to spent my hard earned cash on the Rockrider
Now it started again with the Cube
Couple of upgrades i did do and have done too both the bikes was to put the Archer wireless shifters and "Shagura"the brakes much better modulation
Keep up the good work let my friend see who going skint first lol

 

[BeBiker]

...We seem to be going down the same road in relation to bikes
...Rockrider ... Cube

Yes, iirc you have the 140.
That was the bike that I was after, but unavailability with 750wh, Rob's video and the magnificent color made me buy the 160.
I'm smaller than 1m78/5.8" so the 27.5" is no problem for me.

...Couple of upgrades i did do and have done too both the bikes was to put the ...

We want to see pictures, or it didn't happen

 

[BeBiker]

42km 530hm mainly tour+, used +-65% battery

I'm looking to buy a Bosch powered lamp with a switch close to the grips.
We often drive from the fields into a dark downhill in the bush, so speed and ergonomics is key here.

PRO-E 140 High Beam E-Bike Front Light

Includes handlebar bracket for 31.8 mm and 35 mm diameter bars, a GoPro-compatible universal adapter and a fork mount for maximum flexibility. Light what you want, where you want. Features - ACID Pro-E 140 High Beam E-Bike Front...

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There's a hole in the market.
I want such lamp to also have a QC3.x USB output port for occasional smartphone-GPS tours.

Then for avoiding pedal strikes, I want to replace the 165 with shorter crank arms.
160mm? 155mm? 152mm?

E-MTB Crank Set

Features - ACID E-MTB Crankset ISIS Drive 13 mm offset Bosch Gen4 drive compatible Crankarm Length (choose variant) 160 mm 165 mm 170 mm 175 mm Material Aluminium Weight 470 g (manufacture...

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There is 1 bottle holder mount on the down tube, but when looking more closely there is room enough for 2 bottles.
Are there decent 1-to-2 adapters, or should I simply drill 2 holes ?

Wolf Tooth Components B-RAD Mounting Bases [B-RAD-3]

Bases are the foundation for the B-RAD system that allows for repositioning of bottle cages and customization of bike storage. Available in 2, 3, and 4-slot bases.

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https://www.bike24.com/p2278664.html

Based on the conditions, the second bottle holder mount could then be used for a second water-bottle, a tools-bottle or a heavy class-X lock.

 

[BeBiker]

Close enough, I just have to reduce the space between the 1 and the 6.
Multiple samples of shinyness :

 

[BeBiker]

First shot right :

 

[BeBiker]

Some parts from BikeInn/TradeInn.
My least preferred shop since I once lost myself in their Robotized Whatsapp "service"

But the only webshop that has the post lever and the caliper available for a normal price.

I already have the matte brake lever, tube, fluid and bleed kit,
everything is ready to replace the front brakes and move the "old" kit to the Rockrider.

--EDIT---
The caliper inside the beautiful BR-MT520 box was completely damaged, impossible to understand what somebody ever has tried with this.
Robotized Whatsapp service again, pictures, return claim, their proposal for partly refund, refused, complete refund.
Some day I will get my money back, but I did not wait for that to order a caliper at BikeDiscount.

 

[Gary Davis]

42km 530hm mainly tour+, used +-65% battery

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I'm looking to buy a Bosch powered lamp with a switch close to the grips.
We often drive from the fields into a dark downhill in the bush, so speed and ergonomics is key here.

PRO-E 140 High Beam E-Bike Front Light

Includes handlebar bracket for 31.8 mm and 35 mm diameter bars, a GoPro-compatible universal adapter and a fork mount for maximum flexibility. Light what you want, where you want. Features - ACID Pro-E 140 High Beam E-Bike Front...

www.bike-discount.de

There's a hole in the market.
I want such lamp to also have a QC3.x USB output port for occasional smartphone-GPS tours.

Then for avoiding pedal strikes, I want to replace the 165 with shorter crank arms.
160mm? 155mm? 152mm?

E-MTB Crank Set

Features - ACID E-MTB Crankset ISIS Drive 13 mm offset Bosch Gen4 drive compatible Crankarm Length (choose variant) 160 mm 165 mm 170 mm 175 mm Material Aluminium Weight 470 g (manufacture...

www.bike-discount.de

There is 1 bottle holder mount on the down tube, but when looking more closely there is room enough for 2 bottles.
Are there decent 1-to-2 adapters, or should I simply drill 2 holes ?

Wolf Tooth Components B-RAD Mounting Bases [B-RAD-3]

Bases are the foundation for the B-RAD system that allows for repositioning of bottle cages and customization of bike storage. Available in 2, 3, and 4-slot bases.

www.biketiresdirect.com

https://www.bike24.com/p2278664.html

Based on the conditions, the second bottle holder mount could then be used for a second water-bottle, a tools-bottle or a heavy class-X lock.

@BeBiker . Do you plan to modify your seat height due to shorter crank ?

 

[BeBiker]

It will be adjusted in function of riding comfort and efficiency. We'll see if that is necessary, the difference is 5mm.

 

[E-MAD MALC]

Just got one of these Ergon saddles
Super comfortable for longer rides

 

[BeBiker]

Review - Ergon SM E- Mountain Core Prime Black 278 X 160mm Saddle

Product Image: Product name: Ergon SM E- Mountain Core Prime Black 278 X 160mm Price paid: £101.99 Score (out of 10): 9 Review: For almost 2 yrs I've been perched upon the Specialized Phenom saddle that came standard with my Levo I've got on ok with it - until these last few months ...

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That Ergon looks a bit like our Venec saddle, but longer.
Can you do a side-to-side comparison with some images ?

 

[BeBiker]

 

[Daboss]

I went down a similar route with my 2021 Cube Stereo 160, felt the stock bike wasn’t quite up to what I wanted and living with lockdowns etc in Australia 15 months ago I decided to buy a shed load of upgrades, it goes a little something like this:

full weight prior to upgrades 24.93kgs to 23.3kgs , Don’t even ask how much this cost me, lol, but still enjoying it after 4500kms
Still waiting on the AXS dropper then its complete.



Renthal Fatbar Carbon 800mm

Renthal Apex 40mm stem

Rockshox Charger damper 2.1 (ultimate spec )

Rockshox Super deluxe Ultimate shock

Cane Creek headset bearings

E-thirteen chainring

HT magnesium pedals

XX01 Sram 10-50T cassette

XX01 Sram Chain

Sram AXS GX

Ergon Grips

Specialized saddle

Maxxis Assengi front 2.5”

Maxxis DHRII rear 2.4”

Shimano XTR 900 rotors front / Rear

Magura 8P pads all round

Praxxis Carbon Cranks 165mm

DT Swiss FR560 / XM481 , 350 Hubs 54T racket upgrade

 

[Gary Davis]

I went down a similar route with my 2021 Cube Stereo 160, felt the stock bike wasn’t quite up to what I wanted and living with lockdowns etc in Australia 15 months ago I decided to buy a shed load of upgrades, it goes a little something like this:

full weight prior to upgrades 24.93kgs to 23.3kgs , Don’t even ask how much this cost me, lol, but still enjoying it after 4500kms
Still waiting on the AXS dropper then its complete.



Renthal Fatbar Carbon 800mm

Renthal Apex 40mm stem

Rockshox Charger damper 2.1 (ultimate spec )

Rockshox Super deluxe Ultimate shock

Cane Creek headset bearings

E-thirteen chainring

HT magnesium pedals

XX01 Sram 10-50T cassette

XX01 Sram Chain

Sram AXS GX

Ergon Grips

Specialized saddle

Maxxis Assengi front 2.5”

Maxxis DHRII rear 2.4”

Shimano XTR 900 rotors front / Rear

Magura 8P pads all round

Praxxis Carbon Cranks 165mm

DT Swiss FR560 / XM481 , 350 Hubs 54T racket upgrade

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Hope you're in heaven, now !

 

[BeBiker]

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XX01 Sram 10-50T cassette

XX01 Sram Chain

Sram AXS GX


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A very beautiful bike you have there !
I never liked the gold chains, but on your bike it's more than ok.