Conversion - Installing M500/M600 Motors in M620 Frame

[Tomblarom]

So I made this basic conversion to allow installing a M410/M500/M510/M560/M600-Motor in a M620-Frame. The plates are precisely lasercut, but I didn't do anything about how to mount the cover or skidplate. It was mainly for testing the M600-Motor in my M620-Frame for direct comparison.

This is how it looks with cover layed on top. Not mounted in any way!

These are the screws that are required. And yes, the middle one is M6 and sits eccentric in an M8-hole:

It is also possible to mount the left plate from the outside, but each screw would need to be 5mm longer. Additionally some sort of spacer parts would be required to keep the motor positioned and fill the gaps:

I opted for this position of the motor, because one screwhole can be reused as is and the BB-point is shifted by only 2.9mm. The back and the front are wide open, but I didn't care much, due to this being only for testing.. For now I have no planes to further work on this or offer a solution for the covers, like I did in my last Shimano to Bafang Conversion. If you are interested, I ordered some additional pairs! Simply drop me a message..

 

[Tomblarom]

Here is an example of a ready installed kit:

 

[Ryanlp]

@Tomblarom I'm interested in a pair of plates if you still have some. Can't PM yet since I just joined the site.
I bought a used dengfu e06 and that m620 is a beast and not well controlled. I want to end up with a lightweight motor/battery combo that will really make the bike shine on technical singletrack.

 

[El Topo]

The concept looks interesting, but how does make one this make cosmetically appealing and safe against water ingress? I would prefer to not use Gaffa-tape.

Could you also do a custom cut adaptor plate, that drops the BB by 20-30mm, and maybe even pushes it back 10mm (to effectively shorten the chainstay)?

 

[bafangm620]

I have an extra M620 frame. Thinking of buying a new motor, M560 would be a lot lighter, would it be smart?

How to get this kind of adapter?

 

[Tomblarom]

I have an extra M620 frame. Thinking of buying a new motor, M560 would be a lot lighter, would it be smart?

If you want reliability go for M510 instead of M560. If you want power get an M600. M560 is very loud and not recommended by most people at the moment.. Adavantage about this kits is, that you can put an M500/M600/M510 or M560 in and swap it out for an M620/M630, when you want more power.

How to get this kind of adapter?

Just send me a message I have some stock left. Includes only plates and screws, for now.

 

[bafangm620]

If you want reliability go for M510 instead of M560. If you want power get an M600. M560 is very loud and not recommended by most people at the moment.. Adavantage about this kits is, that you can put an M500/M600/M510 or M560 in and swap it out for an M620/M630, when you want more power.


Just send me a message I have some stock left. Includes only plates and screws, for now.

I am based in Asia and you are in Germany so I would believe not worth the delivery hassle unless there is a maker here in Asia?

 

[Tomblarom]

I am based in Asia and you are in Germany so I would believe not worth the delivery hassle unless there is a maker here in Asia?

Yes shipping is rather not considered, but I'm willing to share the files. I sent you a message.

 

[bart594]

If you want reliability go for M510 instead of M560. If you want power get an M600. M560 is very loud and not recommended by most people at the moment.. Adavantage about this kits is, that you can put an M500/M600/M510 or M560 in and swap it out for an M620/M630, when you want more power.


Just send me a message I have some stock left. Includes only plates and screws, for now.

Hi,
do you still have some stock ? I would like to buy 1 adapter kit for M510. Sorry but i can't PM you as a newbie...

 

[Badger55]

So I made this basic conversion to allow installing a M410/M500/M510/M560/M600-Motor in a M620-Frame. The plates are precisely lasercut, but I didn't do anything about how to mount the cover or skidplate. It was mainly for testing the M600-Motor in my M620-Frame for direct comparison.

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This is how it looks with cover layed on top. Not mounted in any way!
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These are the screws that are required. And yes, the middle one is M6 and sits eccentric in an M8-hole:
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It is also possible to mount the left plate from the outside, but each screw would need to be 5mm longer. Additionally some sort of spacer parts would be required to keep the motor positioned and fill the gaps:
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I opted for this position of the motor, because one screwhole can be reused as is and the BB-point is shifted by only 2.9mm. The back and the front are wide open, but I didn't care much, due to this being only for testing.. For now I have no planes to further work on this or offer a solution for the covers, like I did in my last Shimano to Bafang Conversion. If you are interested, I ordered some additional pairs! Simply drop me a message..

Hi I’m wondering if you could answer this I’ve a Jorvik trike rim 72 it’s a 250w m500 motor and looking to up the power as there’s hills all round where I live !! Would all here motors you’ve listed or any others be a direct replacement or this thanks so much !!

 

[Tomblarom]

@Badger55 your question is kinda off-topic to this thread.. Yes the listed motors have the same mounting pattern and you can simply fit a stronger (M600 or newer M560) or less powerful one (M410). Only the appearance of the M410 greatly differs.

 

[Badger55]

Thanks so much !! I’m an off topic sorts off the wall !! I’ve read the 560’s really noisy and listened in some clips and must say at that frequency you’d be fatigued after you’d been subjected to it for any length o time with those metal gears as it’s got a grind to it !! I’m a retired acoustic engineer and unwanted noise can be a fatiguing tedious distraction !! Here’s a thing tho are they working on 2 wheel drive with torque vectoring and ABS as it’s an interesting concept for cycles !! I suppose that’s getting complicated and the issues of unsprung weight to weight ratio !? But for road use would be interesting for oldies like me !? Thanks again Ian.