Review Buying a bike from Bikester UK March 2021

Pigin

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Product name: Buying a bike from Bikester UK March 2021
Price paid: £200 below RRP
Score (out of 10): 5

Review: This is not a paid promotion!



This post is about the buying and delivery of a bike from Bikester.co.uk and will no doubt morph into one more about the problems or successes others have experienced. Thats fine, share your experiences.


During the great EMTB famine of 2020-2021 I decided to buy another bike. Despite wanting to get it from my or any local bike shop I found that there was nothing in store that fitted the spec list I wanted. My LBS would be more than happy to have my bike looked after by them, so no sour grapes.


I found a bike that I wanted listed as in stock on Bikester.co.uk . Its a UK store front to the German Bikester site and this is perhaps the way to get around some of the issues other European companies are having. The cynical me thought that it might be the usual run around of ordering, paying and then being told that they had sold out or some such other rubbish. I was wrong, it was in stock and the only problem was with the credit card payment. They take a 1p amount off your credit card which, if you have a decent credit card company, will trigger an alert and stop transactions to that company. It was quickly rectified by authorising the payment.


One issue is that because you are buying a box you dont get to add or alter any of the upgrades that Orbea offer, its a take or leave situation. I did email customer services to ask about it and despite them saying the reply will take longer than usual I found the reply be quick enough on this occasion.


They say that every bike is “checked and adjusted” by their mechanics prior to dispatch and that can take 24 hours to move along the process chain. Once the bike is dispatched from the warehouse in Germany you get tracking details. In reality you get them when the order has been completed and the bike is waiting for collection by the courier, Koch International. It took a day and a half to get to this point and then another 24hrs before Koch had it tracked on their system. You also then get an email showing you how to assemble the bike and links to a video.


They are up front and tell you that it is likely to take between ten and fourteen working days to deliver it. The tracking information is a massive weak link in the information chain. There is little information, it is not that informative and does not refresh that often. After six days the tracking showed that it was “in delivery, partner terminal”. After another three days it progressed to “in delivery” but still no details of who will deliver it or when. It actually stays with that information up to and including the day of delivery. At the 12 working days point I contacted the courier who informed me that it had not cleared customs yet. It seems the term “in delivery” actually means stuck in customs. Bikester was also contacted at this point to clarify if all customs duty had been paid. They confirm that all duties (VAT and import duty) are covered and included in the price. Given that my enquiry was through the “Cancel your order” link the reply was very prompt.


At 16 working days I received a call from Ziegler Transport, a Tamworth courier and a Koch partner in the UK, saying that they expect the bike to have cleared customs in a day or two and they can deliver it in a weeks time (that taking account of the Easter Bank Holidays). So from order to delivery it was a calendar month but in reality 19 working days. Contact with Bikester to chase the delivery information was less than adequate at this point. Perhaps they were busy dealing with other such enquiries. If the tracking system and information was up to scratch and as good as their competitors then they would be less busy and more effective.


On the day of delivery it was a complete shambles with deadlines passed, me having to chase them, the driver turning up then going away without making a delivery, then a call from him asking me to go and see if he had left his scanner on a nearby wall and then around 6:30pm he returned with the bike arrived. It was well boxed and only a little bashing of the box was evident.


I’m not sure if the setup is down to Orbea or Bikester but in either case it was correctly indexed and brakes well aligned. The brakes were set as per Euro spec but that’s easily sorted.


In terms of pricing, Bikester were around £200 below full retail but it was still a lot more expensive than had I bought it last year before all the price increases. I was unable to source this bike in the UK despite it being shown as available by many and at the time of delivery nothing has changed. I therefore have to accept that it was a reasonable transaction. I would have happily paid full retail to support the UK economy and business. I think the time scales were less than ideal but their choice of courier really does need looking at.

So given the time scales Bikester get 5/10 from me. Buying a bike should be an enjoyable and exciting event, it wasn’t. Communication was slow on occasion, delivery seemed unnecessarily slow but most of all you can’t deal with people. It’s done now but they wouldn’t be my first choice for buying a new bike again.
 

Norange

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Honestly think that's a little bit unfair on Bikester. In normal times, buying and delivery might have taken 10-14 days for a bike. They do have a massive banner on their website stating that due to Covid and Brexit you could expect significant delays. Maybe at this point they need to update the standard info to 14-28 days.
But it's bloody impossible when it comes to customs. From personal experience, they can be sat on a container with £500k of customers goods in and will refuse to update you on status AT ANY POINT until the goods are released. For a bloody month. So I'd say your expectations that a courier might have a separate status update for customs is possibly unrealistic, they're a law unto themselves at the best of times, and to be fair also under the pump currently.
I could be wrong, and similar deliveries run much more smoothly and with better info. I think bikes are a bit different from a normal item though - would be palletised and run through different logistics? I have an order with Bike Discount at the moment. No update for a week, but I expected that from their website. Same story with another order from ROI. I agree that it's part of the challenge of ordering outside the UK, just a little more patience is required. Like you, I looked to order from UK but there wasn't anything available.
 

Zimmerframe

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I think the main problem for @Pigin was this :

Buying a bike should be an enjoyable and exciting event, it wasn’t. Communication was slow on occasion, delivery seemed unnecessarily slow but most of all you can’t deal with people. It’s done now but they wouldn’t be my first choice for buying a new bike again.

It ended up being an anxiety event. I suspect in a few weeks once he's over it, he'll think that actually, it was pretty good ..

If you look at the positives :

They had a bike ! that's a 10/10 if you can't find one anywhere else in the whole country !

Despite there being none anywhere - so they could charge what they want - it was £200 less ! that's 10/10. (I don't think you can dock points if you think you could have got it cheaper before the great EMTB famine - love that by the way :) )

They sent the bike - that's a 10/10 .

The bike arrived and in one piece ! that's another 10/10.

The main problem was the middle bit which in fairness should be more a review of the present customs situation combined with the number of new and inexperienced courier drivers there are at the moment due to demand - things which are all completely out of their control. I actually thought you were going to say it took months to arrive. How long did it take Rob to get his Orbea test bike for example ?

I've actually bought 2 bikes from Bikester. Both times they were faultless. One even had a graunchy throw away crappy pedal and they even humoured me and sent me a new pair - it's the principle ! :ROFLMAO:
 

Pigin

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Thanks for the comments guys, it’s nice to know that someone has taken time to read the post.

You both make very good points but the review is from a moment in time, of course I will get over it, I already have.

When broken down into the individual steps @Zimmerframe scoring cannot be questioned.

@Norange The only subjective point of what I’ve written is the score, the rest I believe to be factual. Perhaps giving them a score was more about how I was left feeling, somewhat let down with the information flow and service. Hopefully others will now be aware.

The review is written to highlight what you actually have to deal with rather than what is put on Bikesters websites. It’s clear that they don’t want to put “the truth” (harsh I think) about delivery as it may dissuade buyers. I have come to expect better by way of information flow and I believe the whole buying experience is marred by the lack of it.

If people read the review and manage their expectations along those lines then hopefully they will have a better experience than I did. The quote shown by Zimmerframe still stands.

Had a ride of it today and glad I went through with it all, all is still good with the world. I might even alter the score to 51/100 ?
 

Neeko DeVinchi

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Whoa whoa whoa, hang on a sec. Are you saying that when you brought the bike, you were invoiced custom fees as well rather than being collected through processing at customs?
Just curious because I'm starting to find inconsistencies with buyers who purchase goods outside the UK whereby some pay custom fees and others dont.
 

Pigin

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No Neeko. Perhaps I didnt the point well enough. Despite my concerns at one point, Bikester UK made it clear that all duties ,VAT and Customs, were included in the price.
 

fenwick458

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Just bought a bike from Bikester.co.uk , couple of things to point out

I got a new Orbea Gain from a UK bike shop just 2 weeks before. that was built and inspected by the bike shop (winstanleys) and then repackaged and shipped to me in a smaller box, wheels off, seatpost out, bars & stem off (but you could see they had been fitted and removed previously) and the frame was incredibly thoroughly wrapped with bubble wrap with some very sturdy looking purpose built foam mouldings taped to key points on the bike. took ages to unwrap and build

the bike from Bikester Germany was a Lapierre E sensium (another Mahle EX35 bike) but it came very differently, it was in an enourmous box, with the wheels on, seat and seatpost in the frame, basically fully built all I had to do was put the bars onto the stem put the pedals on and remove the thin bits of carboard that were wrapped around the frame.
packaging didn't look very good if it was dropped of something dropped onto the box I'd expect it to have got damaged. there were a lot of areas that were unprotected. luckily it was fine

It was ordered on Tuesday 6th, Dispatched Thursday 8th, received tracking info Monday 12th, got phone call from the local courier on Tuesday 13th to confirm It would be delivered on Friday 16th and it was.

the RRP was £2349 but sold out everywhere in UK, it was £2498 inc delivery from Bikester so an extra £120 (import fees?) and £29 delivery
 

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