April 2025 USA Tariff's - Impact on bike/part prices

[Zimmerframe]

Spoiler: Full Tariff list and supposed reciprocal tariff

China: 34% (charges U.S. 67%)—though Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said the 34% will be in addition to tariffs China already faces, bringing its tariff rate to 54%.
European Union: 20% (charges U.S. 39%)
Vietnam: 46% (charges U.S 90%)
Taiwan: 32% (charges U.S. 64%)
Japan: 24% (charges U.S. 46%)
India: 26% (charges U.S. 52%)
South Korea: 25% (charges U.S. 50%)
Thailand: 36% (charges U.S. 72%)
Switzerland: 31% (charges U.S. 61%)
Indonesia: 32% (charges U.S. 64%)
Malaysia: 24% (charges U.S. 47%)
Cambodia: 49% (charges U.S. 97%)
United Kingdom: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
South Africa: 30% (charges U.S. 60%)
Brazil: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Bangladesh: 37% (charges U.S. 74%)
Singapore: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Israel: 17% (charges U.S. 33%)
Philippines: 17% (charges U.S. 34%)
Chile: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Australia: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Pakistan: 29% (charges U.S. 58%)
Turkey: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Sri Lanka: 44% (charges U.S. 88%)
Colombia: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Peru: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Nicaragua: 18% (charges U.S. 36%)
Norway: 15% (charges U.S. 30%)
Costa Rica: 10% (charges U.S. 17%)
Jordan: 20% (charges U.S. 40%)
Dominican Republic: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
United Arab Emirates: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
New Zealand: 10% (charges U.S. 20%)
Argentina: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Ecuador: 10% (charges U.S. 12%)
Guatemala: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Honduras: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Madagascar: 47% (charges U.S. 93%)
Myanmar (Burma): 44% (charges U.S. 88%)
Tunisia: 28% (charges U.S. 55%)
Kazakhstan: 27% (charges U.S. 54%)
Serbia: 37% (charges U.S. 74%)
Egypt: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Saudi Arabia: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
El Salvador: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Côte d’Ivoire: 21% (charges U.S. 41%)
Laos: 48% (charges U.S. 95%)
Botswana: 37% (charges U.S. 74%)
Trinidad and Tobago: 10% (charges U.S. 12%)
Morocco: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Algeria: 30% (charges U.S. 59%)
Oman: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Uruguay: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Bahamas: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Lesotho: 50% (charges U.S. 99%)
Ukraine: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Bahrain: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Qatar: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Mauritius: 40% (charges U.S. 80%)
Fiji: 32% (charges U.S. 63%)
Iceland: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Kenya: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Liechtenstein: 37% (charges U.S. 73%)
Guyana: 38% (charges U.S. 76%)
Haiti: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Bosnia and Herzegovina: 35% (charges U.S. 70%)
Nigeria: 14% (charges U.S. 27%)
Namibia: 21% (charges U.S. 42%)
Brunei: 24% (charges U.S. 47%)
Bolivia: 10% (charges U.S. 20%)
Panama: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Venezuela: 15% (charges U.S. 29%)
North Macedonia: 33% (charges U.S. 65%)
Ethiopia: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Ghana: 10% (charges U.S. 17%)
Moldova: 31% (charges U.S. 61%)
Angola: 32% (charges U.S. 63%)
Democratic Republic of the Congo: 11% (charges U.S. 22%)
Jamaica: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Mozambique: 16% (charges U.S. 31%)
Paraguay: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Zambia: 17% (charges U.S. 33%)
Lebanon: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Tanzania: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Iraq: 39% (charges U.S. 78%)
Georgia: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Senegal: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Azerbaijan: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Cameroon: 11% (charges U.S. 22%)
Uganda: 10% (charges U.S. 20%)
Albania: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Armenia: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Nepal: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Sint Maarten: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Falkland Islands: 41% (charges U.S. 82%)
Gabon: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Kuwait: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Togo: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Suriname: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Belize: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Papua New Guinea: 10% (charges U.S. 15%)
Malawi: 17% (charges U.S. 34%)
Liberia: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
British Virgin Islands: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Afghanistan: 10% (charges U.S. 49%)
Zimbabwe: 18% (charges U.S. 35%)
Benin: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Barbados: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Monaco: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Syria: 41% (charges U.S. 81%)
Uzbekistan: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Republic of the Congo: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Djibouti: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
French Polynesia: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Cayman Islands: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Kosovo: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Curaçao: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Vanuatu: 22% (charges U.S. 44%)
Rwanda: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Sierra Leone: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Mongolia: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
San Marino: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Antigua and Barbuda: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Bermuda: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Eswatini: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Marshall Islands: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Saint Pierre and Miquelon: 50% (charges U.S. 99%)
Saint Kitts and Nevis: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Turkmenistan: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Grenada: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Sudan: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Turks and Caicos Islands: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Aruba: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Montenegro: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Saint Helena: 10% (charges U.S. 15%)
Kyrgyzstan: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Yemen: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Niger: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Saint Lucia: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Nauru: 30% (charges U.S. 59%)
Equatorial Guinea: 13% (charges U.S. 25%)
Iran: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Libya: 31% (charges U.S. 61%)
Samoa: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Guinea: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Timor-Leste: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Montserrat: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Chad: 13% (charges U.S. 26%)
Mali: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Maldives: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Tajikistan: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Cabo Verde: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Burundi: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Guadeloupe: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Bhutan: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Martinique: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Tonga: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Mauritania: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Dominica: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Micronesia: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Gambia: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
French Guiana: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Christmas Island: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Andorra: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Central African Republic: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Solomon Islands: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Mayotte: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Anguilla: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Cocos (Keeling) Islands: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Eritrea: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Cook Islands: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
South Sudan: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Comoros: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Kiribati: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
São Tomé and Príncipe: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Norfolk Island: 29% (charges U.S. 58%)
Gibraltar: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Tuyalu: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
British Indian Ocean Territory: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Tokelau: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Guinea-Bissau: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Svalbard and Jan Mayen: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Heard and McDonald Islands: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Réunion: 37% (charges U.S. 73%

Some basic ones which are more relevant.

China: 34% (Though actually 54% as that's on top of the existing 20%)
European Union: 20%
Vietnam: 46%
Taiwan: 32%
Japan: 24%

A vast proportion of bikes and parts are fabricated/sourced from these places. Presumably there will only be so much which can be absorbed by sellers/manufacturers.

 

[Tim1023]

Spoiler: Full Tariff list and supposed reciprocal tariff

China: 34% (charges U.S. 67%)—though Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said the 34% will be in addition to tariffs China already faces, bringing its tariff rate to 54%.
European Union: 20% (charges U.S. 39%)
Vietnam: 46% (charges U.S 90%)
Taiwan: 32% (charges U.S. 64%)
Japan: 24% (charges U.S. 46%)
India: 26% (charges U.S. 52%)
South Korea: 25% (charges U.S. 50%)
Thailand: 36% (charges U.S. 72%)
Switzerland: 31% (charges U.S. 61%)
Indonesia: 32% (charges U.S. 64%)
Malaysia: 24% (charges U.S. 47%)
Cambodia: 49% (charges U.S. 97%)
United Kingdom: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
South Africa: 30% (charges U.S. 60%)
Brazil: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Bangladesh: 37% (charges U.S. 74%)
Singapore: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Israel: 17% (charges U.S. 33%)
Philippines: 17% (charges U.S. 34%)
Chile: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Australia: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Pakistan: 29% (charges U.S. 58%)
Turkey: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Sri Lanka: 44% (charges U.S. 88%)
Colombia: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Peru: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Nicaragua: 18% (charges U.S. 36%)
Norway: 15% (charges U.S. 30%)
Costa Rica: 10% (charges U.S. 17%)
Jordan: 20% (charges U.S. 40%)
Dominican Republic: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
United Arab Emirates: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
New Zealand: 10% (charges U.S. 20%)
Argentina: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Ecuador: 10% (charges U.S. 12%)
Guatemala: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Honduras: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Madagascar: 47% (charges U.S. 93%)
Myanmar (Burma): 44% (charges U.S. 88%)
Tunisia: 28% (charges U.S. 55%)
Kazakhstan: 27% (charges U.S. 54%)
Serbia: 37% (charges U.S. 74%)
Egypt: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Saudi Arabia: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
El Salvador: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Côte d’Ivoire: 21% (charges U.S. 41%)
Laos: 48% (charges U.S. 95%)
Botswana: 37% (charges U.S. 74%)
Trinidad and Tobago: 10% (charges U.S. 12%)
Morocco: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Algeria: 30% (charges U.S. 59%)
Oman: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Uruguay: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Bahamas: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Lesotho: 50% (charges U.S. 99%)
Ukraine: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Bahrain: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Qatar: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Mauritius: 40% (charges U.S. 80%)
Fiji: 32% (charges U.S. 63%)
Iceland: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Kenya: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Liechtenstein: 37% (charges U.S. 73%)
Guyana: 38% (charges U.S. 76%)
Haiti: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Bosnia and Herzegovina: 35% (charges U.S. 70%)
Nigeria: 14% (charges U.S. 27%)
Namibia: 21% (charges U.S. 42%)
Brunei: 24% (charges U.S. 47%)
Bolivia: 10% (charges U.S. 20%)
Panama: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Venezuela: 15% (charges U.S. 29%)
North Macedonia: 33% (charges U.S. 65%)
Ethiopia: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Ghana: 10% (charges U.S. 17%)
Moldova: 31% (charges U.S. 61%)
Angola: 32% (charges U.S. 63%)
Democratic Republic of the Congo: 11% (charges U.S. 22%)
Jamaica: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Mozambique: 16% (charges U.S. 31%)
Paraguay: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Zambia: 17% (charges U.S. 33%)
Lebanon: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Tanzania: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Iraq: 39% (charges U.S. 78%)
Georgia: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Senegal: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Azerbaijan: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Cameroon: 11% (charges U.S. 22%)
Uganda: 10% (charges U.S. 20%)
Albania: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Armenia: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Nepal: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Sint Maarten: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Falkland Islands: 41% (charges U.S. 82%)
Gabon: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Kuwait: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Togo: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Suriname: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Belize: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Papua New Guinea: 10% (charges U.S. 15%)
Malawi: 17% (charges U.S. 34%)
Liberia: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
British Virgin Islands: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Afghanistan: 10% (charges U.S. 49%)
Zimbabwe: 18% (charges U.S. 35%)
Benin: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Barbados: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Monaco: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Syria: 41% (charges U.S. 81%)
Uzbekistan: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Republic of the Congo: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Djibouti: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
French Polynesia: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Cayman Islands: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Kosovo: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Curaçao: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Vanuatu: 22% (charges U.S. 44%)
Rwanda: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Sierra Leone: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Mongolia: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
San Marino: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Antigua and Barbuda: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Bermuda: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Eswatini: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Marshall Islands: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Saint Pierre and Miquelon: 50% (charges U.S. 99%)
Saint Kitts and Nevis: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Turkmenistan: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Grenada: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Sudan: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Turks and Caicos Islands: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Aruba: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Montenegro: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Saint Helena: 10% (charges U.S. 15%)
Kyrgyzstan: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Yemen: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Niger: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Saint Lucia: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Nauru: 30% (charges U.S. 59%)
Equatorial Guinea: 13% (charges U.S. 25%)
Iran: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Libya: 31% (charges U.S. 61%)
Samoa: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Guinea: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Timor-Leste: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Montserrat: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Chad: 13% (charges U.S. 26%)
Mali: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Maldives: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Tajikistan: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Cabo Verde: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Burundi: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Guadeloupe: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Bhutan: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Martinique: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Tonga: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Mauritania: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Dominica: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Micronesia: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Gambia: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
French Guiana: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Christmas Island: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Andorra: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Central African Republic: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Solomon Islands: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Mayotte: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Anguilla: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Cocos (Keeling) Islands: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Eritrea: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Cook Islands: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
South Sudan: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Comoros: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Kiribati: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
São Tomé and Príncipe: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Norfolk Island: 29% (charges U.S. 58%)
Gibraltar: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Tuyalu: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
British Indian Ocean Territory: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Tokelau: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Guinea-Bissau: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Svalbard and Jan Mayen: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Heard and McDonald Islands: 10% (charges U.S. 10%)
Réunion: 37% (charges U.S. 73%

Some basic ones which are more relevant.

China: 34% (Though actually 54% as that's on top of the existing 20%)
European Union: 20%
Vietnam: 46%
Taiwan: 32%
Japan: 24%

A vast proportion of bikes and parts are fabricated/sourced from these places. Presumably there will only be so much which can be absorbed by sellers/manufacturers.

Bikes getting more expensive ain't great, but I think there are bigger things to worry about with the orange baby having been freed from any consequences by a corrupt Supreme Court and a populace that has been convinced that all problems are caused by the bogey-men (foreigners, the media, "elites" - not including the 'good' elites such as the tech bros, muslims, deep state, and anyone that isn't a gun totin' white male that has kissed the trumpian ring).

Classic authoritarian play book. Even if further elections are allowed and the (mostly pretty pathetic) dems get back in, they'll need more than a decade to fix the damage. In any case, the US can no longer be seen as a reliable partner that sticks to agreements.

Rant over. But I am genuinely a bit scared of the future.

 

[Maxi]

Classic authoritarian play book. Even if further elections are allowed and the (mostly pretty pathetic) dems get back in, they'll need more than a decade to fix the damage. In any case, the US can no longer be seen as a reliable partner that sticks to agreements.

One commentator I heard during the election made me laugh / cry. He said "enjoy this election as it will be the last one we have" !

 

[whitymon]

Tariffs just don’t work in global economy, never has if people were looking at history and maths.

Recession is coming to US following this. Trump saying I tariff you and I dare to tariff us is just plain joke.

Good for the rest of the world so? Like China <-> Europe?

 

[skizzian]

Bikes getting more expensive ain't great, but I think there are bigger things to worry about with the orange baby having been freed from any consequences by a corrupt Supreme Court and a populace that has been convinced that all problems are caused by the bogey-men (foreigners, the media, "elites" - not including the 'good' elites such as the tech bros, muslims, deep state, and anyone that isn't a gun totin' white male that has kissed the trumpian ring).

Classic authoritarian play book. Even if further elections are allowed and the (mostly pretty pathetic) dems get back in, they'll need more than a decade to fix the damage. In any case, the US can no longer be seen as a reliable partner that sticks to agreements.

Rant over. But I am genuinely a bit scared of the future.

Yup - pretty much sums it up
dark days

 

[Moderator]

We realise much of what's happening is worrying/terrifying/frustrating , but lets try to limit the thread discussion to Tariff impact and leave the politics out of it - as is the general forum rule.

Thanks.

 

[RustyMTB]

Presumably, unless you're in for an American brand then the impact is muted. Most bikes are manufactured in Taiwan or China, so Euro brands appear unaffected. Components sourced ex USA like SRAM, Fox, Raceface etc will be in the firing line but there's more to the market than Specialized.

Besides, I say buy British.

 

[skizzian]

Presumably, unless you're in for an American brand then the impact is muted. Most bikes are manufactured in Taiwan or China, so Euro brands appear unaffected. Components sourced ex USA like SRAM, Fox, Raceface etc will be in the firing line but there's more to the market than Specialized.

Besides, I say buy British.

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not sure I'd post a pic of an Austin All-aggro as an advert to buy British ;D
but yeah - in fact homegrown may actually cost less to produce as steel and aluminium costs will be going down
plus China &Taiwan will likely want to dump in the UK

 

[Tim1023]

Fair enough

We realise much of what's happening is worrying/terrifying/frustrating , but lets try to limit the thread discussion to Tariff impact and leave the politics out of it - as is the general forum rule.

Thanks.

 

[B1rdie]

I'd say: smuggle baby, smuggle.

 

[sethimus]

that’s YOUR problem

 

[RustyMTB]

Occurs that in the short term at least, there may be dumping in response to reducing demand I.e. temporary bargain central.

Who'd want to be in the bike business?

 

[mike_kelly]

Might actaully save the bike industry short term. The new stuff will be way more expensive making the stuff they currently have in warehouses more valuable. Finally they get to sell the stock they have for the full retail.
Then they go out of business because the recession will hit

 

[Mikerb]

Trump has announced tariffs on goods imported to the US from countries that charge the same tariff already on US goods they import. That may spell price increase for US buyers/US brands importing frames and components etc from China/Taiwan. It is referred to as "reciprocal" tariffs.
So it should have no impact on bike brands operating in the UK or Europe importing frame and components from those countries.
If the suppliers of those goods in China and Taiwan etc want their imports to the USA to have tariffs reduced..or done away with completely, those countries need to reduce or remove tariffs for goods they import from the US. Companies such as Specialized and Trek that have distribution/retail presence in the EU , plus of course European bike brands are only affected by existing EU tariffs on goods from China and Taiwan etc.

 

[DirkWisely]

Trump has announced tariffs on goods imported to the US from countries that charge the same tariff already on US goods they import. That may spell price increase for US buyers/US brands importing frames and components etc from China/Taiwan. It is referred to as "reciprocal" tariffs.
So it should have no impact on bike brands operating in the UK or Europe importing frame and components from those countries.
If the suppliers of those goods in China and Taiwan etc want their imports to the USA to have tariffs reduced..or done away with completely, those countries need to reduce or remove tariffs for goods they import from the US. Companies such as Specialized and Trek that have distribution/retail presence in the EU , plus of course European bike brands are only affected by existing EU tariffs on goods from China and Taiwan etc.

This is sadly incorrect. These tariffs aren't based on reciprocity, but rather some hand waving mostly having to do with trade deficits.

I'd imagine this is going to raise our prices quite a lot, but I don't know exactly how this will handle a US country that manufactures stuff overseas. Will Specialized have to pay the full Taiwanese tariff if they manufacture in Taiwan?

 

[Zimmerframe]

If the suppliers of those goods in China and Taiwan etc want their imports to the USA to have tariffs reduced..or done away with completely, those countries need to reduce or remove tariffs for goods they import from the US.

Like Dirk says, this isn't true. (No surprise).

They aren't reciprocal tariff's at all - they've just been called that to make it sound reasonable.

It's all based on goods deficits (not services). So with the UK for example, The US imports more than the UK does from the US. Though if you took into account services, The US is actually exporting more in total than the UK exports to the US (goods and services combined).

The actual amount is calculated by working out the goods deficit - take China for example :

US buys $440 billion from China. The Deficit is $295.

So they divide 295 by 440, which gives you 67%.

Then they divide that by 2 and round up. Which gives you 34%.

It has absolutely ZERO to do with Tariff's that other countries charge.

Anyway - that's all off track ... The thread is about how it will affect bike prices etc

A Levo for example has most of it's parts made/supplied by other countries. If it's then sold in the US, it will face Tariff's. If it was assembled in the US then exported to other countries for sale, it would in turn go up in price vastly. In this case I presume they ship the assembled bikes directly from Taiwan - but don't know that for sure.

 

[Redlemon]

Might actaully save the bike industry short term. The new stuff will be way more expensive making the stuff they currently have in warehouses more valuable. Finally they get to sell the stock they have for the full retail.
Then they go out of business because the recession will hit

I don't think this is quite right as there's no demand to buy these bikes anyway.

The economy will get uglier rather quickly and people will be even more careful with their money, uncertainty will most likely have consumers wait or cancel their purchases. Bikes will not be a priority for sure.

Specialized just extended their current sale on new 2025 bikes here in North America, it's very hard to sell bikes right now.

(this logic applies to the US market as tariffs are a tax on Americans)

 

[mike_kelly]

You are all wrong. There is a Tariff dart board in the Oval Office...

 

[#lazy]

We realise much of what's happening is worrying/terrifying/frustrating , but lets try to limit the thread discussion to Tariff impact and leave the politics out of it - as is the general forum rule.

Thanks.

Dude when you wipe your arse politics has some skin in it , we’re capable of chatting about a subject without being told what we can say !

 

[Mikerb]

Like Dirk says, this isn't true. (No surprise).

They aren't reciprocal tariff's at all - they've just been called that to make it sound reasonable.

It's all based on goods deficits (not services). So with the UK for example, The US imports more than the UK does from the US. Though if you took into account services, The US is actually exporting more in total than the UK exports to the US (goods and services combined).

The actual amount is calculated by working out the goods deficit - take China for example :

US buys $440 billion from China. The Deficit is $295.

So they divide 295 by 440, which gives you 67%.

Then they divide that by 2 and round up. Which gives you 34%.

It has absolutely ZERO to do with Tariff's that other countries charge.

Anyway - that's all off track ... The thread is about how it will affect bike prices etc

A Levo for example has most of it's parts made/supplied by other countries. If it's then sold in the US, it will face Tariff's. If it was assembled in the US then exported to other countries for sale, it would in turn go up in price vastly. In this case I presume they ship the assembled bikes directly from Taiwan - but don't know that for sure.

yes the reciprocation is goods only ( not services) and takes account of tariffs and trade deficit, and currency ..........but my point was that any price implications are for goods bought in the US that are imported. It does not necessarilly mean any price increase for other countries importing bike/frame/components from China/Taiwan etc. In that respect a lot of the reporting has this completely wrong.

It is certainly an attack on the trend in recent years for ( most specifically) Western countries to export more and more manufacturing to the far East. Whether that has has any impact on Bike supplies largely depends whether those manufacturing hubs in China and Taiwan etc start to lose trade. That in turn, may in the medium term encourage more manufacture of frames etc in Europe or the UK.......or indeed in the US...........which is the ultimate aim of the tariffs as far as the US is concerned.
We are of course primarilly concerned a bout bikes, but the same could also be said about clothing and accessories... including Bike gear

 

[DirkWisely]

Was anyone worried this meant increased prices outside the US? This will have global implications, but it shouldn't drive up prices on consumers between any 2 countries that aren't the US. We make very little consumer anything for export.

 

[HandsomeDanNZ]

Presumably, unless you're in for an American brand then the impact is muted. Most bikes are manufactured in Taiwan or China, so Euro brands appear unaffected. Components sourced ex USA like SRAM, Fox, Raceface etc will be in the firing line but there's more to the market than Specialized.

Besides, I say buy British.

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I see your Allego and raise you a Maxi.

 

[ebsocalmtb]

Pretty tough day to be a liberal american. I'll try to abstain from overtly political statements here... but to me, these tarrifs make no logical sense from an economic perspective. I can see utilizing tarrifs in certain cases to try and curtail trade complications with countries that are doing nefarious things like playing games with the value of their currency. These tarrifs are obviously not that... and since it's obvious that they have little chance of paying off both short/long term for the US, one has to assume that they are about leverage and bargaining (more like threatening and bullying) collateral for the mango mussolini and not economic objectives. It seems to me, these tarrifs are meant to try and destabilize the EU/Nato (I can only assume this as we're now an arm of Russia), harm our neighbors (canada/mexico) and to make the american public think the administration is trying to bring back manufacturing jobs.

Jokes on them, manufacturing jobs will come back to the US as automated and lights out manufacturing jobs. Unfortunately for all Americans, the production and tooling cycle is well over 3-4 years long to do such a thing, by then there will be a new administration in office. Even if it's a conservative (even authoritarian) administration, corporations are going to roll the dice that american consumers will demand an unwinding. So... the only two ways out are that americans pay more and we risk a global recession/adjustment, or americans pay more and corporations try and wait it out.

I digress... to bring this full circle to the bicycle industry... It's hard to see how the bike industry (in the US) is going to navigate this. It's a bit hard to understand how the tarrifs will get applied to components vs frames. On the surface, it seems like a blanket 15-30% price increase on frame and componentry cost. That likely won't end up passed along to the consumer in a 1/1 fashion... but there is no way it doesn't get passed along starting immediately. I think a few corporations will hope to capitalize on the back stock of new-old product that they are stuck with (looking at you trek). But the reality is that there is so much quality product on the used market, that the new-old stock is still a tough sell as consumers tighten their wallets and await the worst.

Tough to see a way out for a sector that was already in pretty big trouble. Could be worse I guess, could be the north american auto industry....

 

[HandsomeDanNZ]

I can see this spelling trouble for the US brands, but the Euro/Asian brands can only profit from this, assumedly.
The world exists outside the US and it's a very, very big world.

One of the biggest fallouts I see is SRAM, being a US based company taking a massive hit with reciprocal tariffs making them too expensive for OEM supply and the same with Fox.
SRAM have a few brands under their main header, but the rest of the bike manufacturing world theoretically could simply move on, with so many other options, like Ohlins, Suntour, Shimano, Microshift, KMC, DVO etc.

US Bike manufacturers will likely be hit hardest, as they will lose the ability to compete on a level with the non-US manufacturers outside of the US market.
It will also make the non-US brands very expensive in the US, which will do one of two things...reduce sales to the point that they give up on this market, or they become more "premium, niche" brands, only selling their top-end product into the already costly US MTB market in fairly limited numbers.

I am glad of two things.
1. I already have a new bike
2. I am not that bothered about US product

 

[mike_kelly]

You have to remember that even tho SRAM and Trek and Spesh are American companies like Apple they don't make anything. All their stuff is made in Asia by contractors. Even America niche custom builder have to buy parts from Asia.

 

[RustyMTB]

one has to assume that they are about leverage and bargaining (more like threatening and bullying)

I agree with this, everything we've seen to date aligns with the view that this is about fealty to the administration. Fall into line & we'll grant exceptions, in other words, a shakedown. Anyone who's seen Hamilton will recognise the schtick.

What do global corporations running investment cycles over multi year periods do? Upend established supply chains to satisfy a capricious admin prone to reversing decisions overnight or stick it out & hope reality intrudes? We saw Canada have a 50% tariff imposed on steel only for it to be dropped in 24 hours. That's an impossible environment to plan a business around. Hard to predict what happens to bikes when you look at US companies like Spesh or Pivot, manufacturing in Asia. Even if they onshore production, which isn't like throwing a switch, they're still populating their bikes with third party components whose operations they don't control.

 

[Moderator]

Dude when you wipe your arse politics has some skin in it , we’re capable of chatting about a subject without being told what we can say !

This has always been a (relatively) politics-free forum and we'd like it to stay that way.

If you want to discuss politics on a bike forum there are plenty of threads to choose from on STW.