Kenevo Gen1 38mm Boxxer - new stanchion possible?

[biota]

Hi team

So just got back from the afternoon at farmer John's bikepark on my new Turbo Kenevo.

Very glad I bought it

But in cleaning it, I found a stone jammed in the tiny space between the fork stanchion and chassis.

One in a million chance

My next job was to put bottomless tokens in because it was bottoming out hard even after I increased the pressure well beyond what's recommended for my weight.

So that means the scratch/gouge is the entire length of the stanchion.

I'd describe the damage as a 4mm-wide flat, progressively tapering off towards the top. See pic and vid. There are a couple of slight ridges within it.

It's on the air spring side (left), not the damper side.

Are these repair kits I've seen worth a try?

Being that the boxer is a double crown fork, the stanchions do come out thankfully. But from what I can see online, they aren't yet selling the 38mm one separately?

Should I just ride it until these seals give out, and hope this stanchions are on the market by then?

Could that flat spot damage anything else more costly?

TIA

Danny

 

[irie]

I know absolutely nothing if this sort of damage is repairable or not, but the first thing I'd do would be to send the pics to Rockshox and ask their advice. That really is very bad luck

 

[biota]

Unbelievable isn't it!

Yea that a good shout, will do.

I think the sheer thickness of the lower leg material makes for a relatively big gap in.

I know absolutely nothing about this sort of damage, but the first thing I'd do would be to send the pics to Rockshox and ask their advice. That really is very back luck

 

[Zed.]

that sucks, especially on its first ride

realistically the damage runs in the wiper seal and the bushes that support the stantion tube in the lowers - the seal is to stop crap and water getting into the lowers to mix with the lube & also stop the lube escaping.

realistically the bushing will be already damaged so probably wont get any worse, if you remove the stantion from the crowns then the damaged area could be turned & positioned on an undamaged bit of bushing?

ideally you'd have a new stantion tube (the bushing will have plenty of support as a %age of damaged area and IF you cant afford the extra to replace?)

but I'd just ride it

Rich.

 

[biota]

that sucks, especially on its first ride

realistically the damage runs in the wiper seal and the bushes that support the stantion tube in the lowers - the seal is to stop crap and water getting into the lowers to mix with the lube & also stop the lube escaping.

realistically the bushing will be already damaged so probably wont get any worse, if you remove the stantion from the crowns then the damaged area could be turned & positioned on an undamaged bit of bushing?

ideally you'd have a new stantion tube (the bushing will have plenty of support as a %age of damaged area and IF you cant afford the extra to replace?)

but I'd just ride it

Rich.

Cheers

That's pretty much the conclusion I'd reached after digging into this and understanding more about how they work.

I didn't realise the air piston is inside the stanchion so the important is well out of the way.

At first I thought being on the air side would was worse, but now I think it's probably less bad than if it was the damper side than if it was the damper side.

 

[biota]

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[MagisterBibendi]

Hi team

So just got back from the afternoon at farmer John's bikepark on my new Turbo Kenevo.

Very glad I bought it

But in cleaning it, I found a stone jammed in the tiny space between the fork stanchion and chassis.

One in a million chance

My next job was to put bottomless tokens in because it was bottoming out hard even after I increased the pressure well beyond what's recommended for my weight.

So that means the scratch/gouge is the entire length of the stanchion.

I'd describe the damage as a 4mm-wide flat, progressively tapering off towards the top. See pic and vid. There are a couple of slight ridges within it.

It's on the air spring side (left), not the damper side.

Are these repair kits I've seen worth a try?

Being that the boxer is a double crown fork, the stanchions do come out thankfully. But from what I can see online, they aren't yet selling the 38mm one separately?

Should I just ride it until these seals give out, and hope this stanchions are on the market by then?

Could that flat spot damage anything else more costly?

TIA

Danny

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Just to note that based on your images you have a C1 Boxxer which have 35 mm stanchions, not the newest one with 38 mm (D1). The left airspring side stanchion manufacturer number for C1 Boxxer is 11.4018.093.001.

 

[biota]

Just to note that based on your images you have a C1 Boxxer which have 35 mm stanchions, not the newest one with 38 mm (D1). The left airspring side stanchion manufacturer number for C1 Boxxer is 11.4018.093.001.

Well spotted, cheers! That's what I've figured out today in looking around.

When looking into the bike I asked the shop if they're 38s and they said yes. Silly old me said "oh they look thinner but it must just be because they extend so much further up, making them look relatively thin".

So overall good news

Also, definitely going to look into putting something on the back of the fork bridge to shroud that gap slightly

 

[biota]

Just to note that based on your images you have a C1 Boxxer which have 35 mm stanchions, not the newest one with 38 mm (D1). The left airspring side stanchion manufacturer number for C1 Boxxer is 11.4018.093.001.

Do you know whether the "2019+" edition one that I keep seeing is the same?
Can't seem to find any other so I'm assuming it is.

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[MagisterBibendi]

Do you know whether the "2019+" edition one that I keep seeing is the same?
Can't seem to find any other so I'm assuming it is.

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Yes the 2019-2023 Boxxer is the C-generation, so that is the correct one.

 

[biota]

Even tho my bike is 2024?

 

[DylanJM]

Even tho my bike is 2024?

Your bike is a 2023. Specialized didn't release a 2024 Kenevo model.

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[biota]

Ahh see what you mean, 2023 spec...

 

[cozzy]

I spent my entire kenevo ownership trying to make the boxxer feel how i wanted, even with the rc2 damper.
I then purchased a dh bike with a fox40 and discovered how a dual crown fork is supposed to feel.
I bought a 40 for my kenevo shortly after. So i would suggest not spending a penny on the boxxer and put the money towards a 40 instead.

 

[biota]

I spent my entire kenevo ownership trying to make the boxxer feel how i wanted, even with the rc2 damper.
I then purchased a dh bike with a fox40 and discovered how a dual crown fork is supposed to feel.
I bought a 40 for my kenevo shortly after. So i would suggest not spending a penny on the boxxer and put the money towards a 40 instead.

Mine's nowhere near dialled and except for the bottoming out it didn't feel too bad to me.
What didn't you like?

 

[biota]

More importantly I've just dropped 5K, not looking to drop another best part of £2k

Already binned the Code RS in favour of Mavens

 

[Zed.]

on the boxxer good or bad discussion, Ohlins made a 'drop-in' damper to fit the older Boxxer & it was used on many competitions - allegedly

Ohlins also made that damper fit the fox 40

also, to identify the Boxxer (age, general spec & suggested setup as a starting point) go on Rockshox Trailhead (app or website) & enter the serial number

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Rich.

 

[cozzy]

More importantly I've just dropped 5K, not looking to drop another best part of £2k

Already binned the Code RS in favour of Mavens

These were £7000 back in 2020 and rose to nearly £9000 i recall.
So using man maths you are still quids after buying a decent fork

 

[biota]

on the boxxer good or bad discussion, Ohlins made a 'drop-in' damper to fit the older Boxxer & it was used on many competitions - allegedly

Ohlins also made that damper fit the fox 40

also, to identify the Boxxer (age, general spec & suggested setup as a starting point) go on Rockshox Trailhead (app or website) & enter the serial number

RockShox TrailHead

A suspension specialist in your pocket! Get personalized setting recommendations for the perfect ride.

trailhead.rockshox.com

Rich.

Doing that right now!

 

[biota]

These were £7000 back in 2020 and rose to nearly £9000 i recall.
So using man maths you are still quids after buying a decent fork

You were ballin, man!