2021 Trek Rail 7 vs Orbea Wild FS H20

[Calamity]

Sorry for another "Which bike" post.

I am going to pre-order either an Orbea Wild FS H20 or Trek Rail 7. The bike will be used mostly for pretty rugged natural trails with occasional bike park trips.
The price is the same on pre-order on both. I live about 15 minutes from both bike shops but unfortunately there is no bikes in my size to try.

From what I can see online:

Rail positives

• Easier to remove battery, important for me in apartment
• Microspline freehub> Shimano cassette> better gear switching
• Better brakes
• A little lighter (?)

Rail negatives

• The store can not give me a delivery date, and considering all delays from subcontractors it may not be delivered before May or later.
• 130mm dropper post

Wild FS positives

• Delivery in November this year
• Better suspension (?)
• Better wheels and tires
• Kiox Display

Wild FS negatives

• Sunrace cassette / HG freehub
• 32t chainring
• Poorer integration of electrical system (charging port, battery mount)

Anyone can comment on whether there is a significant difference in the quality of the suspension?
Rail has RockShox Yari RC and RockShox Deluxe Select + while Wild has Fox 38 Float Performance and Fox Float DPS Performance.

Thank you for all the feedback and thoughts on what you had chosen! I think I will probably be happy with both bikes, still want to ask!

 

[Mteam]

The suspension on the orbea (especially the forks) is a lot better than that used on the trek.

The battery on the orbea is quite easy to remove.

The speed sensor is better designed on the rail,but works fine on both bikes.

Out of those two I'd go for the orbea because the spec is better, but I may be biased because I narrowed my choices down to either a trek rail 9.8 or orbea wild fs m team, and I went for the m team because of the higher (much higher) spec for the same money.

They're both going to be decent bikes though. The sizing or geometry on the orbea may not suit you, so don't just buy on spec differences.

 

[JoeBlow]

I just bought a 2020 Orbea Wild FS H20 a couple of weeks ago from Bikester in Germany. It has Fox suspension but the display is a Purion. I paid £3,950 which is a LOT less than the Trek and what I would have paid in the shop (£5400 if I recall) and why I bought it. Never had a problem getting the battery out but I tend not to bother.

It's a lovely bike, rides like a dream and gets plenty of admiring glances and comments even some from the professionals of EMBN.

Al

 

[Calamity]

The suspension on the orbea (especially the forks) is a lot better than that used on the trek.

The battery on the orbea is quite easy to remove.

The speed sensor is better designed on the rail,but works fine on both bikes.

Out of those two I'd go for the orbea because the spec is better, but I may be biased because I narrowed my choices down to either a trek rail 9.8 or orbea wild fs m team, and I went for the m team because of the higher (much higher) spec for the same money.

They're both going to be decent bikes though. The sizing or geometry on the orbea may not suit you, so don't just buy on spec differences.

From the Wild 21 bluepaper PDF here page 22-23 it seems that the 2021 models have integrated sensors and magnets. No more spoke magnet! Yes I'm trying to find somewhere to demo them both.

I just bought a 2020 Orbea Wild FS H20 a couple of weeks ago from Bikester in Germany. It has Fox suspension but the display is a Purion. I paid £3,950 which is a LOT less than the Trek and what I would have paid in the shop (£5400 if I recall) and why I bought it. Never had a problem getting the battery out but I tend not to bother.

It's a lovely bike, rides like a dream and gets plenty of admiring glances and comments even some from the professionals of EMBN.

Al

That's a nice price! Would you have chosen the Orbea over the Trek if the price was exactly the same? (Both preorder for 4200 GBP in my country)

 

[JoeBlow]

Not sure. It was the only bike I saw under £4000 that had Fox suspension. It was longer, better quality suspension that prompted me to buy a new bike in the first place. I had a Trek previously, a Powerfly 4 FS with Suntour forks but fancied a change. I also liked the look of the Orbea and the fact that it got loads of positive reviews. Don't quote me on this as I'm not sure but from the look of the design I think it may be possible to change the shifter cables and brake hoses without dropping the motor which has to be an added benefit. I would have liked a Levo but I spoke to so many people at my local bike park that had experienced motor failures that it put me off Specialised and Brose. At least I knew what I was getting with Bosch although I do dislike the Purion display. 29" wheels was also a positive for me.

It was a serious contender even at £5,300, the price in most retailers, so when I saw it drop to £3,950 I ordered straightaway and got the last one delivered within 10 days. I had been dithering for months.

Al

 

[Mteam]

From the Wild 21 bluepaper PDF here page 22-23 it seems that the 2021 models have integrated sensors and magnets. No more spoke magnet! Yes I'm trying to find somewhere to demo them both.


That's a nice price! Would you have chosen the Orbea over the Trek if the price was exactly the same? (Both preorder for 4200 GBP in my country)

Wonder if the new spped sensor can be retrofitted to the 2020 bike?

 

[Andrie]

Wonder if the new spped sensor can be retrofitted to the 2020 bike?

It said the chain stay is different design and can not be retrofitted to old design

 

[James7475]

Did anyone get a S/M? I’m 171cm and have tiny arms. It’s in the post...
Thanks in advance