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Hard to say, my alloy frame was a 2022 model. I have four buddies that bought the 23-24 model from me in alloy and they all ride pretty hard and haven't had any issues. We've also not had any customers with the rear triangle alignment issues that some have. We use to sell Santa Cruz bikes, I...

Maybe, all I know is they say manufactured in Spain. The carbon frames are a step up in quality over the alloy versions though. I know that first hand having cracked an alloy frame myself. But I've yet to see a failure come into our store with a carbon frame.

Again, the "frame" is manufactured and painted at the factory in Spain. Not just assembled.

On the frame where the headtube and downtube meet. Keep in mind that you can custom pick your colors with the high end models, I placed my order Nov 11th for my 2025 Wild M10 with custom colors and finish, my bike is shipping Dec 12th. If these frames were made in China there's no chance it...

Every carbon frame I've seen in our store says "manufactured in Spain" that includes Rallon's and a bunch of road and gravel bikes and both alloy and carbon Rises. I know that some of the lower end alloy bikes like a Laufey are manufactured in Portugal. I have seen nothing made in China.

Working at an Orbea dealer I find that hard to believe and would like to hear the full story.

Orbea Wild frames are manufactured and painted all in house at the factory is Spain.

Well like I said, I work at a shop and we’re an Orbea dealer. Other than waiting a little while for Orbea to have stock we upgraded a customer to a larger battery. All we did was order the battery through the spare parts section of the website. Wasn’t done as a warranty issue or replacement.

Who told you that? I work at a dealer, we just ordered a 540wh battery for a guy that had the smaller 360wh battery and wanted a larger battery. There was no warranty claim involved, you're local dealer can order either battery under spare parts from Orbea. It was back ordered and took about 6...

The front triangle was the standard one, the rear triangle wasn't. Keep in mind the bike had 200mm's of rear travel.

Not to mention Orbea threw a Fox 40 on the Wild frame, added a longer linkage and took the motor out and raced DH Workd Cup with it.

Well +20mm, you could order the Wild with a 170mm fork from Orbea.

Probably not anytime soon, otherwise all of these new bikes would have launched with them.

Funny, I personally prefer the look of the Crestline over the Vala (which looks like so many other 4-bar ebikes)

That’s why Crestline’s design is nice, bike can use either size batteries (600&800) and easily slides out the bottom.

I would bet my last dollar Orbea did something to make sure the link wouldn't fit for that very reason....lol

I think the 800wh battery is 5" shorter too. So that definitely gets the weight much lower. Again another reason why I can't imagine Orbea is using the 750wh over the 800wh.

It's more than just 50wh, it's the newer high density cells. So the battery has 50wh more but is also a pound lighter. The 750wh battery weighs 4.4kg and the new 800wh weighs 3.9kg.

According to Pinkbike, the 63.5 HA is due to the 170mm travel fork. https://www.pinkbike.com/news/first-ride-2025-orbea-wild-emtb.html Scroll down to the geometry section of the article. If it is a new mold for the frame they really fumbled that one not designing it for the new 800wh battery...

I don't think they made a new mold, I believe they could have just gotten away with a revision. If they had made a new mold I would assume they could use the 800wh battery.