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  1. Derek carter

    Kenevo Gen1 Nobody will care because it's GEN1, but Specialized still selling faulty batteries

    What you mean like I did the first time my Gen-1 battery blew up, or maybe taking out the battery and quickly opening it up and cleaning out all the water that had erroneously entered the battery was the way to go? Eh ... so if taking the battery off before washing the bike and I found water in...
  2. Derek carter

    Kenevo Gen1 Nobody will care because it's GEN1, but Specialized still selling faulty batteries

    Yes, as I say I think the SL semi-permanent battery with range extenders moving the charge port away from being integrated with the battery is the way to go. I'm wondering why they don't have an additional charge port on the full fat Turbo Specialized, give access to using range extenders and...
  3. Derek carter

    Kenevo Gen1 Nobody will care because it's GEN1, but Specialized still selling faulty batteries

    In terms of engineering ... I like the system on the CREO, and not so much on the SL MTB bikes, the charge point is moved away from the battery ... and higher up the 'BB area' (the higher the better IMO away form splashes and the spray of the wheels) ... With the full power LEVO/KENVO I don't...
  4. Derek carter

    Kenevo Gen1 Nobody will care because it's GEN1, but Specialized still selling faulty batteries

    Oh ... trust me I've got 2 eebs on the 2016 Yamaha system, 2 batteries for Gen-1 Specialized and a Specialized CREO which I'm guessing is the 2020-2021 battery format? (err maybe!?!) Just mental innit!
  5. Derek carter

    Kenevo Gen1 Nobody will care because it's GEN1, but Specialized still selling faulty batteries

    Cool ... this is the process I used to care for the original battery I obtained for the Specialized Concept Store, it died after 16 months after a wet ride out. Hence, needing more data than just re-stating the same maintenance mantra over and over again, it gets tiresome. I believe the issue...
  6. Derek carter

    Kenevo Gen1 Nobody will care because it's GEN1, but Specialized still selling faulty batteries

    Riiiight ... so Maybe a bit garbled but in my original post I do say "this is because I originally bought a spare battery for my Kenevo back in 2022, and then after a wet and soggy December ride at the end of 2023 I washed down my bike ... put it on the back of the car got home and discovered...
  7. Derek carter

    Kenevo Gen1 Nobody will care because it's GEN1, but Specialized still selling faulty batteries

    Sorry but when they're dishing out the management cool-aid you can find me at the back of the queue!
  8. Derek carter

    Kenevo Gen1 Nobody will care because it's GEN1, but Specialized still selling faulty batteries

    The other issue often associated with water and circuits is voltage regulation, as you say hopefully I've caught and dried out the battery before any of the higher voltage circuitry has affected the low voltage logic circuits and components. 🙏 OMMMMM!
  9. Derek carter

    Kenevo Gen1 Nobody will care because it's GEN1, but Specialized still selling faulty batteries

    OK so first it's useful if I raise issues with existing products, this means both existing owners and people looking to potentially own the bikes and system components from say the second hand market know about issues associated with particular models and versions of bikes. Hence being soo...
  10. Derek carter

    Kenevo Gen1 Nobody will care because it's GEN1, but Specialized still selling faulty batteries

    Your 100% right on this that's correct but the two incidents have been completely different on the care given to the components, after the ride, hence the need to stop "trying stuff" and actually investigate the issue to identify root causes, do some basic engineering.
  11. Derek carter

    Kenevo Gen1 Nobody will care because it's GEN1, but Specialized still selling faulty batteries

    Cool cool cool ... but again it comes back to Specialized not giving me any report on the initial failure, so I don't know what exactly it is when "I mess around cleaning it". So I spend all this time actually doing engineering to understand the problem, and communicate what I'm finding ...
  12. Derek carter

    Kenevo Gen1 Nobody will care because it's GEN1, but Specialized still selling faulty batteries

    A little bit of a Vent yes ... but other people are still owners of Gen-1 bikes ... and for a Gen-1 owner investing in a 850 pound battery it's possibly useful to know their is still issues associated with a product even after ... hmm what is is now a second product recall for this exact issue...
  13. Derek carter

    Kenevo Gen1 Nobody will care because it's GEN1, but Specialized still selling faulty batteries

    That's an interesting question ... here in the UK ... dunno what the score is in the US ... the Specialized Concept Store in Birmingham is run by a company called Certini which I'm guessing is operating the Specialized Concept Store as a kind of franchise? I bought the battery from Certini's...
  14. Derek carter

    Kenevo Gen1 Nobody will care because it's GEN1, but Specialized still selling faulty batteries

    Here is a time-laps of one hour with the LED/ONOFF button half of the battery case submerged. Look I could have made the issue worse on removal of the battery internals, this is true, this film is of the battery case totally submerged ... but it's going to be the capillary action that's going to...
  15. Derek carter

    Kenevo Gen1 Nobody will care because it's GEN1, but Specialized still selling faulty batteries

    Right, as explained I've been hit by the same issue twice now, riding on a wet day and battery dies, and look cool I don't mind all this hey try this and try that ... you know disposables break pads, tires ... try this ... do that ... fine, but when your talking about a component that costs 850...
  16. Derek carter

    Kenevo Gen1 Nobody will care because it's GEN1, but Specialized still selling faulty batteries

    Yup this is my hope that, after drying (the old iPhone in a bag of rice) but on a slightly larger scale ... my original battery I returned to Specalized never came back ... but now I've taken this battery apart and dried it up internally ... fingers crossed. There is a small flashing red...
  17. Derek carter

    Kenevo Gen1 Nobody will care because it's GEN1, but Specialized still selling faulty batteries

    Right setting up to perform immersion testing on that ON/OFF LED cluster on the battery, will see if I can get some videos of it. If you not an engineer you might want to tune out ... it's going to get technical from here on out. The construction of the LED and ON OFF button on the battery...
  18. Derek carter

    Kenevo Gen1 Nobody will care because it's GEN1, but Specialized still selling faulty batteries

    Yes, so water ingress at the ON/OFF button has put me between a rock and a hard place. Either specialized has faulty batteries in their inventory and their getting out when owners buy replacement components. Which means I'm taking a gamble on buying a replacement battery. Alternatively, the...
  19. Derek carter

    Kenevo Gen1 Nobody will care because it's GEN1, but Specialized still selling faulty batteries

    I’m sorry but I should have renamed this thread "I’m Gen 1 so I want to hear how ignorant none Gen-1 owner are"?!? Look, I've had about 4 hours sleep ... So apologies I've just chosen your reply, but I'm going to be maximum salty. Maybe in replying to my post none GEN1 users maybe feel like...
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