That's interesting I hadn't realised the newer EP801 had overtaken the Bosch at lower cadences. I suppose there isn't a whole lot in it, certainly for a touring style of use, except for likely better range on the Bosch. The Bosch Smart System was a very refined system when I had it on the Rail...
Mine's a A30 Coil, and at first I thought it must be a carbon vs alloy thing, but then in the manual here:
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0449/1496/6691/files/MY23_owners-manual_pp_web_5.pdf?v=1671126489
on page 5 it says 150kg. The manual is for carbon and alloy. 120kg on that article...
Just one correction, the Rocky Altitude is rated 150kg. It's sitting next to me I can see the sticker from here :)
All good bikes, Cannondale sounds like it will suit what you're after :) Bosch is probably ideal for your use case too.
If my Rocky got nicked, I would actually buy the another one. Not sure I've thought that about an ebike before. The only conundrum I'd have would be whether to spring for carbon high spec or not. I bought a alloy low spec and did it all up, I haven't brought myself to adding up how much that...
Yeah of course they all work. They'll all get you up a hill with a load of bread for sure. Just depends what you're used to. I like to ride quick up as well as down and a stronger motor obviously does that better - especially for us heavier ppl. For me the stronger motors have all seemed to do...
Hmm might be some personal preference creeping there I've never really liked the Shimano motors since I had an E8000, which was weak as piss. I've not had the EP8 but consensus seems to be it's weaker, certainly at lower cadences, and I very much expect that will be blindingly obvious riding one...
Also Rocky Mountain, 150kg.
A couple of things on that:
- the longest travel bikes are generally built burlier. Also the longer travel takes more of the hit in the suspension. Go for a Enduro type bike if you want the strongest bike 160+ rear travel but lean towards more. I don't see a Levo...
Many of us highly value torque :)
And yes it matters more the heavier you are.
As Dax said "pretty much any ebike will have enough torque for fire roads" is true, but more is better, there is a big difference in the more powerful motors. Enough is never enough. The less powerful bikes I've had...
Have a good hard look at the Rocky Mountain Altitude Powerplay. I love mine dearly, I also think it's the best motor.
FWIW, I've had in order of recentness:
Turbo Levo 2023 Alloy Comp
Trek Rail XTR (Bosch Smart System)
Trek Fuel EXE XT (TQ)
Orbea Wild previous gen - Bosch CX
Commencal Meta...
Ah don't worry we won't hold it against you just cos you're new 😉
I'm sure it's a totally different kettle of fish riding bike parks, DH tires would be a no brainer I'm sure.
FWIW, I've found "as low as you can" is good as long as rim strikes aren't happening, and finding that balance can be...
I disagree - it's not a thing that can't be dealt with, but I can certainly feel it. Bike is less snappy, feels a bit more "dead" on the trail with a lot of the proper DH tires. Say goodbye to quite a bit of power. Would depend on where and how it's being ridden too though I think, our trails...
Rocky Mountain Altitude Powerplay. That's if you have a dealer in the vicinity (lots of LBS do them here).
In my humble opinion, best motor. No clutch clatter while descending. Torquey. Excellent range. Great response curve. Really capable bike that manages to still feel quite agile. Great...