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    "2nd dead bosch gen 4 motor not happy

    Hi Pete, can you outline what parts you are using for the upgrade? Have you found a way to fit 2 seals for 1 or is it just better seals? Are you using corrosion proof bearings SS/ceramic? What is the current situation with faulty circuit boards?
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    "2nd dead bosch gen 4 motor not happy

    What mileages were the failed motors on? Brose or Bosch?
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    "2nd dead bosch gen 4 motor not happy

    Interesting, can you post more details and clearer photos please?
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    "2nd dead bosch gen 4 motor not happy

    At least Brose supply all motor parts for repairs.
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    "2nd dead bosch gen 4 motor not happy

    Thanks Gareth, glad you appreciate it.
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    "2nd dead bosch gen 4 motor not happy

    What do you do to help?--slag people off!!
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    "2nd dead bosch gen 4 motor not happy

    I did it for everyone else, something you obviously don't understand.
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    "2nd dead bosch gen 4 motor not happy

    Finally got some traction on this scandal. https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/article/2024/jun/15/the-big-problem-is-water-uk-ebike-owners-plagued-by-failing-motors Lets hope we see some corporate ethos change re spares & design and not just a meaningless, throw away mission statement...
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    "2nd dead bosch gen 4 motor not happy

    "Then again a new basic car in UK is probably £17 grand more reliable than a Ebike I would hope " and a damned sight more complicated but still good for 100,000miles +
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    "2nd dead bosch gen 4 motor not happy

    How much more drag would a couple of seals and stainless or ceramic bearings add? And 50% more weight - I don't think so! And why don't they all make all motor parts available? Why are motors so expensive? If customers don't complain, then nothing is going to change. Article in the Guardian...
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    "2nd dead bosch gen 4 motor not happy

    Pete at EBMC can fully repair Bafang & Brose motors I believe..
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    "2nd dead bosch gen 4 motor not happy

    I searched online and some riders are fitting Bafang motors to failed Bosch powered bikes using adapters. Bafang do make motor parts available.
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    Bosch Gen 4 Chainring Nut printed Torque of 25 to 30 NM is likely wrong

    I see you made the steel lockring? Are you selling them - Link?
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    Bosch Gen 4 Chainring Nut printed Torque of 25 to 30 NM is likely wrong

    I just drilled between castellations and fitted a roll pin - sorted.
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    "2nd dead bosch gen 4 motor not happy

    You may be right, my wife's Bafang powered ebike is 14 yrs old and still going strong! Have you a link to Bafang's mid drive Seviceability?
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    "2nd dead bosch gen 4 motor not happy

    Bosch motors are failing in urban ebikes too.
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    "2nd dead bosch gen 4 motor not happy

    Figures are hard to find however I found this: AI-generated answer
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    "2nd dead bosch gen 4 motor not happy

    The motors are designed for emtbs but not well enough. Your argument that emtbs are only 10% of the market therefore failure is acceptable does not hold water and is irrelevant.
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    "2nd dead bosch gen 4 motor not happy

    We should not have to worry about water, magnetism or shocks killing our motors. They should be 'fit for purpose' and robust. They are EMTB motors with an EMTB Mode, so they should be able to withstand EMTB environments of the country they are sold into. They should not be failing when nearly...
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    "2nd dead bosch gen 4 motor not happy

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