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    EM600, EM900, M8150 crank weights confirmed

    @chrismechmaster Manuals can be found here: FC-EM900 Torque of pinch bolts is the same (12-14nm); note Shimano sends the pinch bolts greased...accordingly I did not use threadlocker on those bolts like Orbea did with the e*13s. The hole in the spindle needs to be aligned with the split in the...
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    Opinion on Orbea changing cranks for cheaper than spec

    @BobR Thanks. I'm using the same kind of hex driver. Yes the hex can be made to go into the head of the bolt, but not straight on, and because of the angle, the hex does not go in far enough to seat fully in the head of the bolt. You can see the angle of the tool relative to the chain guide...
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    Opinion on Orbea changing cranks for cheaper than spec

    @volts Is that a Shimano spider/chainring? If so, I wonder if the chainline is slightly different (more inboard) than that of the original e*13 ring. Here is a pic looking straight down onto the inner pinch bolt on my bike; the chainring overlaps about half of the bolt head. Even using a...
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    Opinion on Orbea changing cranks for cheaper than spec

    Can you post an image of what you are thinking? The problem is that the inner pinch bolt is essentially on the same plane as the chainring, so the only space to get straight down into the head of the bolt is to use a short key and approach it from the space between the 'spokes' of the chain...
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    Opinion on Orbea changing cranks for cheaper than spec

    Just finally got around to pulling off the e*13 alloys (which I never actually had a problem with) and installing the FC-EM900 arms. For anyone else yet to do this, one thing I noticed that I have not seen mentioned here yet is that there is not sufficient clearance to get a hex drive socket...
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    Actual Rise Weights??

    @Pdoz I don't think confusion over the weight was the Stelvio's impediment to sales. Or at least not the most significant problem. The Aprilia Caponord was another similarly competent (and light relative to the competition) adventure touring bike that struggled to sell. Size of the dealer...
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    Actual Rise Weights??

    Not sure I understand or agree with the complaints about stated weights not including pedals. The whole point of publishing a spec like weight is to make it comparable to other models. What is your proposal? Every brand should publish weights with pedals? In that case, for the numbers to...
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    Watch out for e*thirteen cranks!

    Wait, what? I can understand orienting the crank arms to put the pin hole in the spindle opposite the pinch bolts on the e*13 cranks to avoid any unnecessary stress on that hole when torquing the pinch bolts, but what about when fitting the recommended Shimano FC-EM900 crank arms? The Shimano...
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    Actual Rise Weights??

    Medium M-team, 40 lbs even with pedals (Hope F20 flats), stock except for: setup tubless (with the stock tires), 203mm Galfer floating front rotor and appropriate Shimano caliper spacer, Timberbell, Garmin Edge 830 on a Barfly mount, Fox 36 fender, and a Rockstop downtube guard.
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    Official Rise LTD Recall for E*13 Carbon Cranks

    @RickBullotta Yeah, you are probably right, I guess they notified those that got their M-TEAMs or M-LTDs delivered with e*13 alloys first, and then once that was complete moved on to those that had received their bikes with the e*13 carbons. Anyway, both sets of customers are getting the same...
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    Opinion on Orbea changing cranks for cheaper than spec

    As you've probably seen, the carbon cranks are never coming, and the Shimano alloys are the replacement. Seems they've been rolling out the news sequentially to different markets; emails to US customers went out a few months ago. On the upside for those of you in the UK, since Orbea likes...
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    Official Rise LTD Recall for E*13 Carbon Cranks

    Yeah, this is the same notification that was sent to US customers last October.
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    Opinion on Orbea changing cranks for cheaper than spec

    For those that have installed the Shimano FC-EM900, are you using the plastic Shimano preload caps, the caps from the e*13 cranks, or just aftermarket alloy replacement caps? Also, are the FC-EM900s fitting up properly without any spacers (including the stopper plate pin aligning correctly...
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    Opinion on Orbea changing cranks for cheaper than spec

    Digging this thread back up... Have any of you that received the email from Orbea regarding the replacement Shimano cranks actually gotten them yet? I got the email in October, contacted my dealer shortly after to have them file the claim, and not seen them yet (despite periodically asking for...
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    (Another) orbea rise sizing question…

    @Ricardo75 I'm the same height and have a Medium, and I would definitely not go any larger. It's possible to get confused by the cockpit dimensions, as the seat tube angle is quite upright which makes the saddle to bar distance a bit short relative to the overall size of the bike (stack/reach...
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    Opinion on Orbea changing cranks for cheaper than spec

    I get it. I don't really need carbon cranks on a bike like this, and I understand that the reason Orbea are not fitting them anymore is because of the compatibility problem. That said, my point is that part of the incremental price I paid for the M-Team (over the M10) was due to the carbon...
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    Opinion on Orbea changing cranks for cheaper than spec

    I also doubt it, but it would definitely turn some frowns upside down, which should be their goal considering they were not able to deliver the bikes as advertised/marketed per specs. Offering the FC-EM900 cranks at this point is fine, but they should also offer to just refund people for the...
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    Opinion on Orbea changing cranks for cheaper than spec

    Agreed. If purchasing new, the incremental price doesn't make sense based on the negligible weight difference. Back to the question from the OP, given that the Shimano cranks are essentially the same weight as the e*13 alloy cranks they are replacing, and further that Orbea is saying that the...
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    Opinion on Orbea changing cranks for cheaper than spec

    The published weight for the e*13 alloy plus cranks are 446g for 170mm, so the same as the 8150 Shimano. The e*13 carbon cranks (for Bosch/Brose) are published at 335g for 170mm, so considerably less. Based on what @mark.ai weighed his cranks at, it seems the EM-900 cranks would be slightly...
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    Opinion on Orbea changing cranks for cheaper than spec

    The 900 and 8150 look identical except for the surface finish and the logo applied. There are no specs at all on the Shimano page (weight or anything else), just basic dimensions (Q factor and available lengths).
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