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  1. Fit_Fat_almost_50

    The King has no clothes - SL 1.2 Power

    Yet the tests dont support this. @Rob Rides EMTB we are all very aware of the claims. How about you give us a view on the discussion and data here?
  2. Fit_Fat_almost_50

    The King has no clothes - SL 1.2 Power

    Do you remember what VW did on their fuel consumption data?...
  3. Fit_Fat_almost_50

    The King has no clothes - SL 1.2 Power

    Not really if you go back a few pages you will see that I got 420W on the TCU. There was some views around where the power is measured and reducing it by 20% to get a true measure. I have not seen anyone including @knut7 claim a verified max power output. At he core of this discussion is...
  4. Fit_Fat_almost_50

    The King has no clothes - SL 1.2 Power

    Should you wish to form an informed opinion, I would recommend following my approach and reviewing the information thoroughly. My tests are driven by data and focused on outcomes. I am open to considering informed perspectives once you have acquainted yourself with the details. I dont speak...
  5. Fit_Fat_almost_50

    The King has no clothes - SL 1.2 Power

    I am confident in my figures and have no qualms about your expertise. Indeed, I have no regrets about the funds invested in the 1.2 motor, as I take pleasure in experimentation. Nonetheless, it would be negligent on my part to remain silent when there are others diligently saving their money...
  6. Fit_Fat_almost_50

    The King has no clothes - SL 1.2 Power

    When evaluating technical items, particularly motors with detailed specifications, and when contrasting one product with another based on empirical advancements, it stands to reason that your guidance to the reader should be more precise than 'generous'. My own testing, now corroborated by...
  7. Fit_Fat_almost_50

    The King has no clothes - SL 1.2 Power

    This seems to suggest that the hardware is nearly identical. It's conceivable that the software in version 1.1 has been refined for enhanced long-term performance. I have no particular issue with Specialized, but if a consumer felt significantly misled and conducted side-by-side comparative...
  8. Fit_Fat_almost_50

    The King has no clothes - SL 1.2 Power

    Thank you for sharing this information; it's certainly reassuring to receive confirmation. I ceased my evaluations upon recognising the marginal uplift compared to the proclaimed figures. This raises concerns about the reliability of individuals such as @knut7, who have published articles with...
  9. Fit_Fat_almost_50

    Mahle SL 1.1 to SL 1.2 - What's Possible and What's Different ?

    Not much standard on her anymore so decided to give her a face job
  10. Fit_Fat_almost_50

    The King has no clothes - SL 1.2 Power

    Thank you, @iamanej! I take that as a compliment. However, I can assure you that Specialized employs engineers who are much more skilled than I am. Projects like these are complex and require coordination among Original Equipment Manufacturers (OEMs), product management, and manufacturing teams...
  11. Fit_Fat_almost_50

    The King has no clothes - SL 1.2 Power

    Honestly, the verdict is still up in the air. Based on my preliminary tests, it's evident that the current software grants a performance boost ranging from 2% to 7%. All the electronics and software are from the Gen 2 SL on my bike. This naturally raises the question: Where did Specialized...
  12. Fit_Fat_almost_50

    The King has no clothes - SL 1.2 Power

    Added Percentage change of Spd-to-Power Ratio and comments for ease of comparison: Power-Time (Wh): This is calculated by multiplying the Power (in watts) by the duration of the activity (in hours). Formula: Power (W) × Duration (hours) Speed-to-Power Ratio: This is the ratio of average...
  13. Fit_Fat_almost_50

    The King has no clothes - SL 1.2 Power

    From my tests and observations over the past few days, I've derived some key insights about the performance dynamics of my bike, particularly in relation to its battery and power management: Performance Comparisons: When I contrasted the bike's operation on the 14th of August (with the old...
  14. Fit_Fat_almost_50

    The King has no clothes - SL 1.2 Power

    I'm in the movie of throwing good money after bad.
  15. Fit_Fat_almost_50

    The King has no clothes - SL 1.2 Power

    I have a theory from a technical standpoint. Battery Management Systems (BMS) are designed to monitor and regulate the operation of batteries, especially in preventing them from operating outside their safe limits. If the BMS detects a current draw that's beyond the battery's capability or might...
  16. Fit_Fat_almost_50

    The King has no clothes - SL 1.2 Power

    Indeed, that's the exact point we aim to validate with additional data. Something is clearly amiss. I want to clarify that I'm not biased against Specialized, and I have a vested interest in this matter. The complication isn't merely about the quantity of power delivered; it's nuanced. Key...
  17. Fit_Fat_almost_50

    The King has no clothes - SL 1.2 Power

    Here you go, read what you need to out of this.
  18. Fit_Fat_almost_50

    The King has no clothes - SL 1.2 Power

    I believe this underscores my point regarding "Apple-type" marketing strategies. While there might be select cases—when one cherry-picks the data—that support this view, it doesn't hold consistently. My expectation was that this would be evident across the power curve. However, I can assure you...
  19. Fit_Fat_almost_50

    The King has no clothes - SL 1.2 Power

    Breaking News! An Epic Tale of Batteries, Bikes, and Bad Balance... In an astonishing development, after my intense battery swap, I can confidently exclaim, "EUREKA!" There's an improvement. However, it’s not the “I’ve-got-the-power” 80W boost I dreamed of while wearing my mad scientist lab...
  20. Fit_Fat_almost_50

    The King has no clothes - SL 1.2 Power

    thanks, guys, for the engagement good to be part of a community; I typically sit on the sidelines, but glad I got involved. As a consolidated reply: 1. @SquireRides Yes, it's the original battery, I had not thought of it being the limiting factor as it's still 100% healthy. Lithium...
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