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  1. rzr

    Bosch gen4 - tour mode too strong?

    I don't see lightning symbol here (data from power meter), which means these power values are roughly estimated by Strava (from distance,inclination), but it's not very accurate (no info about terrain, tires, bike/your weight etc.) Basically, on your images, this is total power estimated by...
  2. rzr

    Bosch gen4 - tour mode too strong?

    I'm talking and power, not torque however, i gave you already an equation with torque before.... but yeah, i undestand. I already explained everything many posts before, and you just try to argue for a sake of arguing? or just trolling? :) ok, fine, my bike is faulty and/or I'm faulty. EOT.
  3. rzr

    Bosch gen4 - tour mode too strong?

    300W is my constant power (and i can relate that to my other bike with power meter), not a motor (this is what Kiox display shows you and what is saved in GPX/TCX files). Motor gives maximum power at that time (in Tour or Turbo), thus, segment time is THE SAME in both situations. Terrain was...
  4. rzr

    Bosch gen4 - tour mode too strong?

    This is surely a joke. Bosch didn't see mountain biker from a mile.... Purion - inspired by 70's StarTrek, on bikes for 7-8k only one eMTB mode (Tour is for touring/city bikes), no customisation at all controls - again, fancy looking, not designed for MTB (compare with shimano, specialized or...
  5. rzr

    Bosch gen4 - tour mode too strong?

    please read my first post, I just stated that Tour is too powerful (like or almost like eMTB), and Eco is nice, but for all day trips. I spoke with Trek shop, they said it's like this, they cannot adjust it. So, you cannot help me, unless you can modify software. someone gave some values, so I...
  6. rzr

    Fuel EXe Trek Fuel EXe - Trying to understand range and altitude possibilities

    How to get these nice Batt statistics ? (in activity description), is it some custom program? or app for Trek EXe only ?
  7. rzr

    Bosch gen4 - tour mode too strong?

    and as we spoke, 140% * 280W = 392W - is way above motor limit, the same with the torque 85rpm * 50Nm / 9.554140127 = 445W (way above continuous motor power) You can reach motor max. in all 3 modes.
  8. rzr

    Bosch gen4 - tour mode too strong?

    It's difficult to read it exactly while you climbing. I'll try to do test - short climb in both modes (and maybe record it) on a weekend.
  9. rzr

    Bosch gen4 - tour mode too strong?

    Why do you think so? why do you think Tour cannot give you full power ?
  10. rzr

    Bosch gen4 - tour mode too strong?

    don't think so, everything is fine, I was able to keep up with 2 Unno Mith bikes (they have Bosch motors as well and were on emtb/turbo mode). I've already explained what's the problem. Lack of custom settings (for at least one mode), and that all 3 modes can give you maximum power.... but...
  11. rzr

    Bosch gen4 - tour mode too strong?

    yep. probably you missed :) I didn't say they feel exactly the same, I said all 3 give maximum power. (or in other words, when i climb - all give max. power). Tour gives up to 140% of your power? so 280W * 1.4 = 392W (but motor max sustained power is 250W) eMTB up to 340% ? 280W*3.4=952W, but...
  12. rzr

    Bosch gen4 - tour mode too strong?

    please read my first post, there is no difference when motor cannot produce more power than maximum... right?
  13. rzr

    Bosch gen4 - tour mode too strong?

    all 3: tour, emtb, turbo - can give you maximum power. i didn't see any information about restrictions for these modes. yes, when I go slower, i can feel the difference, but most of the time I don't go slow.
  14. rzr

    Bosch gen4 - tour mode too strong?

    I'm talking about climbing, when I alredy pedal, power is the same on both 3 modes.
  15. rzr

    Bosch gen4 - tour mode too strong?

    but i put just MY power, and both modes - tour and emtb give me the same power, like turbo (or very close, can't feel the difference). I saw settings in Nyon - i had it on my bike, even bought for 4.5 eur! custom modes... (now i'll return it), as i just mounted Kiox display, and it looks like...
  16. rzr

    Rail (750Wh) Bling innit….

    that's that plastiky tape if you like spending hours, bending/snapping levers while mounting tires, and not be able to change inner tube during your ride.... ... just keep it :D
  17. rzr

    Bosch gen4 - tour mode too strong?

    If you want more power, you can always use eMTB. Also, other companies give you possibility to easily adjust power assistance.... just now bosch .... so the motor is max 250W (maybe short peak power higher) ? so if I produce 280W and Tour can give up to 140% (280*140%=392W), which is way above...
  18. rzr

    Rail (750Wh) Bling innit….

    maybe you have plasticky tape there? i have alu bontrager (rail 9.7) and I spent 1h trying to mount used Magic Mary (good levers, water with soap, even zip ties), with no avail. I removed that plasticky tape and put standard thin Stan's yellow tape, from that point, installation was a breeze, 10...
  19. rzr

    Bosch gen4 - tour mode too strong?

    Today I decided to check range of my Trek Rail gen4 625Wh in Eco mode, however after doing ~1600m elevation i had 50% battery and decided to speed up, to finish the battery before sunset :) so I switched to Tour mode (I don't have any +), and I noticed that battery was eaten quite fast, I...
  20. rzr

    Rail (625Wh) New rail and size

    there are 2 'versions' - Gen3 (750Wh bat, new smart bosch control) new geo, Gen2 ('old', 625Wh) - old geo (2020-2022 frames) https://www.trekbikes.com/es/es_ES/bicicletas/bicicletas-de-monta%C3%B1a/bicicletas-el%C3%A9ctricas-de-monta%C3%B1a/rail/c/B344/
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