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Its my understanding that Specialized dealers are NOT compensated by Specialized for any warranty labour, however, they are covered for replacement parts. When they sign up to be Specialized dealers they are supposed to factor this additional labour cost into the price of new bikes they sell. So...

Very interesting with wider implications methinks.

My 10 penny worth. When I bought my EMTB I immediately sold my old bike as I figured I'd never ride it again since the new EMTB did everything I wanted it too and generally faster or for longer or when I was tired too! However, I bought another analogue bike once the 2nd warranty claim went in...

I have to admit though the Cube Stereo is about 2K less for the equivalent. Levo Carbon = £7.5K and Cube Stereo 160 = £5.5K:oops:

Looks like you got a bargain! But I bet you didn't pay 3-4 thousand dollars less!:)

I paid £3500 for my 2019 Kenevo in Nov 2018. Like to see you get another e-bike with similar components for 3-4 thousand dollars less!!

Interesting...did you keep your ebike aswell?

Link says 2019/2020 Levo and 2020 Kenevo - so my 2019 Kenevo is not included - bummer!! Unless someone knows different.

No reason given, apart from not being bad enough to merit a new motor. Dealer advised spinning cranks after washing to disperse water from crank seals and spray a little silicone spray or water displacer onto crank shaft behind crank arms.

Have I missed something? What 2 year FOC extended warranty are you referring to? Do you mean the standard 2 year warranty from new or have Specialized added something? I have a 2019 Kenevo and the 2 year warranty from new ends in November 2020. -The crank/motor bearing is starting to sound...

1250 trouble free miles with my 2nd Kenevo 2019 Brose motor (fingers crossed). 1st lasted 1100.

Mmmmm not sure what this is going to tell you if you don't know the total number of each type on the forum? Where are the broken motor poles?

Time to clear out the garage. I sold 2 bikes via gumtree within 24hrs!

Can't advise on your specific issue as I haven't got an SL but I would think both motors have some sort of freehub/clutch mechanism that disengages the motor from the cranks when pedaling backwards. The important thing is the resistance when pedaling forwards which is what Specialized are...

Thanks for that.i don't really need an exact number more just a comparison of apples to apples between the Levo and the SL. So looks like 2x/4x is in addition to rider power.up to max the motor can provide.

Yeah I'm just trying to compare he power/weight/capacity of the levo and levo SL when delivering a set amount of power but can't seem to get to the bottom of whether the 2x and 4x are in addition to the rider input. Other threads do talk about it but no real definitive answer.

Do you know the answer to the 2nd bit?

Can anyone help..Specialized website quotes "2x You (240 watts)" for the Levo SL and "4x You (565 watts)" for the Levo. Do the figures in brackets relate to the maximum power to be supplied by the motor? Also, if rider effort is 100w, will the Levo SL motor add 200w and the Levo motor add 400w...

Yeah - that it true - often difficult to track down where the sound is originating. I normally start with the easiest thing to disassemble/reassemble, until either the noise goes away or, eventually, everything has been disassemble/cleaned/lubricated and reassembled!

I've had some noises from my Trek Powerfly headset area too. I think the knock block headset creaks a bit due to dirt ingress. Suggest you strip down the headset, clean, grease and rebuild. Not sure why you appear to have greased everywhere apart from where you think the noise is coming from?