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12 mm. I forgot they're all 12 mm thru pins for all linkage. Except the shock hardware mounts.,👍

I'll check when I get back home. But look back in May on this thread page 100ish?

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Perfect! DIY or commercially available?

Ok here's the link to thread for the non-ICR top headsets and frame port conversion info, and all of ZS56/28.6 top headsets and internal.cable guides, and my install process.👇 Thread 'Non-ICR headset, internal frame cable guide conversion for the CEF 50. Non-ICR headset, internal frame cable...

I've done that exactly before on another emtb build...looks real clean too.

Yep, great job! I wondered about that too.🥰 Good to see it working. I have a separate rubber grommet split with a separate port, but cutting the carbon frame cleaning can be tricky, so I'd rather make two cutouts not three.👊

Problems with ICR ZS56/28.6 headsets? Me too! I have two in 8 months with uniquely different issues discussed later. First, all Internal Cable Routing third party headsets are new, and thus questions of precision and durability are at the forefront. Second, I like the idea, it provides a very...

Expansion on these particular ICR headsets. Mr. BirdBird's Bicycle Bizaar (Mr. BBBB'S) is an old school UK mechanic. He appears very honest, says that while the Tokens/NP headset cable guide caps are hardened plastic, they're durable and never seen one broken. Mike Kelly says so far so good too...

Yes. Both Nukeproof and Token same guy. https://www.ebay.com/itm/186264666591?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=7FWzMKnfQ22&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=BmQFwEwfRYu&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=MORE

Non IRC headset option...good for frame side ports cable routing (traditional). For those thinking about a full conversion, there's a new (and rare) ZS56 top headset assembly called Woodman out of Taiwan...

Ahh yes! I used doubled-up on shrink wrap to thicken the wire to help close to the gap on the similar ICR cap. 👍 But I've also used in the past just regular black electrical tap wrapped around the wire several times making a doubled-ended tapered thickener. Anyway... Thinking about going side...

Gotcha! So, the topcap has a hole in to allow the big display plug through. Does the cap opening have grommets to minimize water ingress? Got a pic of, if, when you get a chance later... Looks clean enough for me and better than most E-mtb cable guide setups.🤟

So, the frame came as just an empty slot for the guide? Looks like it works as it should.👍

Good call! That's what I think I want.👍 Did the metal hex bolt cable guide come with matching metal mounting tabs for the plastic guides too? Or was it already fitted by SZZS? I would rather have the screw in over the plastic lever tabs for better cable security.

So Mike, still no issues. No plastic cracking?

Thanks. Don't want external. 😝 Gets snagged way too easily.

Anybody convert their frame to traditional side cable guides? If so, can you take a pic of your set up. I think I'm gonna convert myself.

It was the main pivot bolt that fits into the rocker arm near the top shock mount. It was 8 mm too short amazingly. 👇 I eventually broke the mating bolt mid-ride but was able to ride it back to my truck with no damage, but marred up the paint a little at the pivot joints of the stays due to...

Hope the build is progressing well. Did you get the CC cups in and fit the ZS56 upper headset? Thinking about converting to frame side ports. I'm having a grinding issue with the new upgrades SZZS headset leaving metallic dust on my headtube creating tiny slack now.👇 Both grinding down black...